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Bill Enos
Film God

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From: Richmond, Virginia, USA
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 - posted 10-06-2004 11:43 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wednesday evening I was in a restaurant restroom when a 5 or 6 year old came out of a stall and said he had to go real bad but couldn't get his pants unfastened and asked me to unfasten them for him. As much as I would have liked to help the little guy I said no and told him to get help from his Mom or Dad. I could see somebody coming in with me taking his pants down, and the resulting child molestation charges, trial and prison. My wife agrees that I made the correct decision. Any thoughts??

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Dean Kollet
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 - posted 10-06-2004 11:49 PM      Profile for Dean Kollet   Email Dean Kollet   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
HELL YES you did...with the legal world as it is today, good decision. Also, I wouldn't help anyways...his parents need to do that stuff...

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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 - posted 10-06-2004 11:50 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You made the right decision.

Sure, it would be embarrasing for some six year old kid to piss his pants. But then it is really no big deal at all for a kid that age to do that. It is by far the lesser of evils compared to what could have happened if you had helped him with the situation.

The thing that makes me wonder is what kind of crack this boy's parents are smoking that they would let a kid that young go into a restaurant restroom all by himself. That's really where I would be wanting the hammer to fall down.

Lazy ass parents. They're all quick to point out someone who could be a child molester or bad influence. But then their happy asses will plant the child in front of a Playstation2 for hours on end while they screw their lover and think about how they can ruin the live of the other estranged parent. Assholes.

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Greg Davis
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 - posted 10-07-2004 12:23 AM      Profile for Greg Davis   Email Greg Davis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
IDIOT! you blew your chance man! how many times will that happen?!?

Just be glad that the poor kid didn't skip that step for you and ask to hold his weenie for him. Yes or no that one is an awkward situation to walk into.

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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 - posted 10-07-2004 01:09 AM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ya done good Bill! [thumbsup]

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William Hooper
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 - posted 10-07-2004 03:22 AM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's about the best that could be done there!

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 10-07-2004 07:54 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Lets face it...his parents need to "grow up" and help their child.

Steve

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 10-07-2004 12:10 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with the rest.

However, you could have asked the kid his name and ducked out the door to see if "Johnny's" Mom or Dad were within range.

Totally a judgement/preference call on your part, though. You have no responsibility to take care of somebody else's kid.

This is the price people pay for being so danged "P.C." that they won't let an average citizen do a good deed for their kids for fear of being accused of molesting their kids. If they won't let people help, they'll have to clean up the pee-pee!

Back in my day, if somebody messed with us kids, my Dad would have shoved a shotgun so far up his rectum that guy would be shitting lead for a week! I'm not foolin'! I once witnessed my Dad rack a shell into the chamber and look a guy right, square in the eye and say just that!

When I was that age, if I had a problem like that, I wouldn't have hesitated to ask for help from a stranger because if there was a "problem" I knew that all I had to say was, "DAD! Somebody's touching me!!"

Those days are long over... [Frown]

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 10-07-2004 10:03 PM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That would be a tough situation indeed because my first instinct would be to help the little dude out. I personally couldn't give two shits what the parents say to me for trying to help. But the reason that would cause me to hesitate would be to teach the KID not to solicit such assistance from total strangers.

I feel bad for him. Maybe he's afraid to ask his parents because they might hit him or something. Who knows. But a bad stranger might do a lot worse to him too, so it's probably not in his best interest to do that.

It's hard to say what I would have done without being in that situation. I will say that doing what you did for the reasons stated above seems to make sense to me, I'm just not sure I would have done the same thing. And if I did, it would have been for different reasons.

I don't know if that answers the question or not! [Smile]

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Wolff King Morrow
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 - posted 10-07-2004 11:55 PM      Profile for Wolff King Morrow   Author's Homepage   Email Wolff King Morrow   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Back in my day, if somebody messed with us kids, my Dad would have shoved a shotgun so far up his rectum that guy would be shitting lead for a week! I'm not foolin'! I once witnessed my Dad rack a shell into the chamber and look a guy right, square in the eye and say just that!
In this day and age, your dad would be spending a lot of time in courts for pulling a gun on someone like that.

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Matthew Nock
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From: Bairnsdale, Victoria, Australia
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 - posted 10-08-2004 07:07 AM      Profile for Matthew Nock   Email Matthew Nock   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bill,

I would say that you did the right thing, and I would have probably done the same - however I would have felt bad for the poor kid.

But in this day and age, its far too risky to help out with something as simple as this.

All you need is for some paranoid person to walk in, while you are kneeling to assist the poor kid, and Whamo!

The parents should not be allowing their 6 year old kid to go to the toilet by himself anyways... And I totally agree that if the kid did make a mess, then its would be the parents at fault, not the kid.

Society is totally screwed up now!

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 10-08-2004 11:12 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Wolff King Morrow

In this day and age, your dad would be spending a lot of time in courts for pulling a gun on someone like that.

Probably so.

The person in question was a well-known trouble maker. Among other things, he was suspected in several incidents of the type of which we speak. Yet, somehow, he always seemed to get off on technicalities.

At the time, my Dad owned a bar. This guy had been banned from the place. The "incident" took place during an exchange when he was trying to come back in. It was appropriate for the time and place where it happened.

Then, again, I know of few people who, at 8 years old, have seen their father in a real live "knock-down, drag-out" bar fight... with chairs flying and beer bottles smashing over guys' heads... against two other guys... and winning!

Times were different, then.

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Pravin Ratnam
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 - posted 10-09-2004 11:40 AM      Profile for Pravin Ratnam   Email Pravin Ratnam   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I would have called for his parents too. that would be the best compromise. Yeah too much is sexualized right now. I remember a few years ago, if a buddy and I went to the cinemas, we would have the one seat buffer zone. BUt if three of us went, we would sit next to each other.

Now, i don't really care about that buffer zone. Whatever is convenient.

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