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Author Topic: Verbatim Digital Vinyl CD-Rs Jennifer Pan THE JEN! Posts: 1219 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: Nov 2003 posted 10-20-2004 01:00 AM                        I'm not exactly sure if this has been talked about before. But I saw Verbatim Digital Vinyl CD-Rs on the shelves and I am intrigued to whether or not they are any better or equal. Has anyone tried these vinyl CD-Rs out?  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2004 03:05 AM                        Those little vinyl discs are a pain. You've got to buy a bunch of adapters for them. You can switch one adapter between discs, but they start to fatigue & break.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-20-2004 03:46 AM                        Verbatim makes the highest quality removable media on the planet. Period. If vinylish looking CD-Rs are any good, or even crappy, Verbatim will make the best ones.  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2004 07:59 AM                     Umm . . . these are not vinyl CD-Rs (which I don't belive would be technically possible, I would be suprised if vinyl could be made reflective enough to meet spec), they are just conventional everyday aluminum CD-Rs that have been manufactured with a kind of retro looking black label area suggestive of old 33 1/3 and 45 rpm vinyl lp's and singles. I have used them at up to 12x writing speed with no problems.  |  IP: Logged Jennifer Pan THE JEN! Posts: 1219 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: Nov 2003 posted 10-20-2004 11:37 AM                        Ahh, that is what I figured. That it was just some coating to look cool.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 10-20-2004 02:51 PM                        quote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea Verbatim makes the highest quality removable media on the planet. Period. In the archive world Mitsui optical media are believed by many to be the most reliable over the long term (of course it could be that by 'highest quality' you had other criteria in mind besides data longevity, in which case the below doesn't apply). This topic comes up regularly on the Society of Archivists and AMIA listservs, and I've yet to hear any substantive rebuttal of the claim that Mitsui discs are formulated specifically with long-term data storage in mind, and therefore are likely to outlast most competitors. But that having been said, the issue really boils down to the fact that we have no hard independent data when it comes to optical disc media longevity - the same situation as when colour dye fading was discovered in the '70s. It could potentially be useful if a respected and independent organisation such as the Image Permanence Institute systematically Arrhenius tested every brand of DVD-R on the market and published the results (yes, I know that we shouldn't rely too heavily on accelerated aging, but it would be a start).  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-20-2004 02:53 PM                     Ironically, those faux-45-looking Verbatims are not so-called "music" CD-Rs for audio CD recorders...they can only be used in computer CD burners. A colleague at work bought several boxes of these discs, only to find the Sony audio CD recorder we got wouldn't accept them. As silly as the "music" CD-R distinction is (that is, except to the music industry in their desire to collect royalties), Verbatim should have made the vinyl-lookalike CD-Rs compatible with audio CD recorders, increased price and all. Then they would really have had a gimmick...  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 10-20-2004 02:58 PM                        They also have DVDs that look like film reels:  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2004 05:16 PM                        The "reel" design reminds me more of a 10" reel of 1/4" audiotape than a film reel. I usually use Taiyo Yuden CD-Rs (not for long-term storage; that's what tape is for); does anyone have an opinion on how they compare to Mitsumi?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-20-2004 05:22 PM                        Verbatim does NOT make the best DVD-R's on the planet. The ones that look like film reels are retarded.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-20-2004 05:33 PM                  I agree, Joe. They do not look like any film format reels nor do they look like any tape format reels, Scott. They remind me of the wanna-be film & video guys/companies that have NO clue as to ANY of those formats. quote: That Scott guy! I usually use Taiyo Yuden CD-Rs... anyone have an opinion on how they compare to Mitsumi? Yeah... they both suck! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2004 05:44 PM                        Phil--if you double the number of cut-out sections, this reel looks pretty close to the "reel" depicted on the Verbatim product: (the whole thing wouldn't fit on my scanner; deal)  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-20-2004 06:07 PM                  That's cool, Scott. But who's counting "cut-outs"? I'd rather look at the shapes! Hubba Hubba! Also, a couple of things: 1) Get a bigger scanner. 2) "Grand Master" on the 456 reels has ALWAYS really turned me on... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-20-2004 08:22 PM                     There is very little room to write anything on those Verbatim DVDs. The fake tape is just plain sloppy looking. And yes, I do have some 10 1/2" reels for 1/4" tape that look a lot like those DVDs. I used some of the "vinyl" CDs to make copies of an oldies compilation CD I put together. I thought that was the perfect use for them.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-21-2004 12:15 AM                     Or, if you can print up your own labels for CD's, maybe these templates might be of some assistance to you. They are way-cool just to look at on their own, and can bring you wayyyy back in some cases You will be asked to enter a password, which is labels enjoy! -Aaron  |  IP: Logged

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