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Topic: Amish Teen Electrocuted in Ohio
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Richard Greco
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posted 01-12-2005 10:09 AM
How Ironic
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CHARDON, Ohio (AP) - A 17-year-old Amish boy was electrocuted trying to remove a power line that got tangled in his horse-drawn buggy's wheels, authorities said.
The boy drove over a power line Tuesday that had sagged down within a foot of the road after separating from a pole, authorities said.
The line got stuck in the wheels and stopped the buggy. The boy got out and grabbed the 4,800-volt line in an attempt to remove it from the wheels, the Geauga County Sheriff's office said. He died at the scene.
The boy's name was not released because his family had not all been notified, officials said.
The Amish are a deeply religious group who shun modern conveniences such as electricity, telephones and car ownership. About 40,000 Amish live in Ohio, the most of any state.
The boy was traveling south on a road near Geauga-Trumbull County line in northeast Ohio, about 25 miles east of Cleveland.
The horse pulling the buggy was not injured.
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Stephen Furley
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posted 01-12-2005 04:29 PM
When I worked in a school we had something called 'Headstart'. This was where some of the new intake, aged 11' would come in for a week during the Summer holidays to get to know the place before the start of the new academic year.
One year a girl ran out at the end of the day, straight into the road outside, and was hit by a car. Her injuries were fairly minor, but she had to be taken to hospital; I think broken bones were nvolved. The school had difficulty contacting the parents, the mother didn't speak English, I've forgotton what her language was, but there was nobody in the school who spoke it very well. Eventually they managed to contact the father, who did speak English, and who seemed remarkably unconcerned about the fate of his daughter. "We never taught her how to cross a road", he said, "We always take her everywhere by car"
How on Earth can you live in Brixton (busy area of London, with lots of traffic on the roads) and not think that your 11 year old needs to know how to cross a road?
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Stephen Furley
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posted 01-12-2005 05:22 PM
There were quite a lot of people in London then who didn't speak English, not so many today. I don't think I could do it, I learned just enough Russian to get by when I went to Russia, and just enough German when I went to Berlin. I'm hoping to get to China in October, and I'm really not sure how I'm going to manage.
This happened at a time when there was still a lot of immgration to Britain, and Brixton has long been an area where immigrants settled. There were Huganots from France, Catholics from Ireland - rather ironic considering the troubles in Ireland later, Jews from Eastern Europe, then in my day there were Ugandan Asians expelled by IdI Amin, Vietnameese Boat People, and Brxton has a very large carribbean community, but most of them are descended from immigrants who came over in the '50s. It was a bit like New York, or maybe more like New York was in the '20s, people came there from all over the World. Many of the people we had at our school had only recently arrived in the Country. I think there were something like 60 or 70 first languages spoken there at the time.
I got the impression that the father didn't really want his wife or daughter to mix with the 'natives'. This does seem rather strange to me; I don't really understand how he could move to a country that he didn't want to be part of, but then I don't know what the situation was in his home country, or what he may have been escaping from.
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Michael Schaffer
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posted 01-12-2005 05:59 PM
Thank you, gentlemen. My question was mostly rhetorical-sarcastic though. I figured as much as Stephen said here
quote: Stephen Furley
I got the impression that the father didn't really want his wife or daughter to mix with the 'natives'. This does seem rather strange to me; I don't really understand how he could move to a country that he didn't want to be part of, but then I don't know what the situation was in his home country, or what he may have been escaping from.
and that's what my sarcasm was aimed at. Whatever they have escaped from, it apparently wasn't England, so why shouldn't they be able to communicate with the people among which they live?
I know the same situation from Berlin too.
Where I right now there are tons of people who speak little or no English and don't seem to think that's a problem. That hasn't so much to do with the fact that it is too difficult to learn the new language, at least a little bit after some time. They also don't have to integrate themselves to the point where they would lose their cultural identity. What I find sad is the very active self-segregation they generally practice, and with many immigration groups you can also see that it is indeed the wifes and daughters that they don't want to have any contact with the "natives".
I am also not surprised that Steven said the father didn't seem too worried. I have seen that many times myself from certain immigrant groups in Berlin. If the son has an accident, they cry their lungs out, if something happens to the daughter, oh, well, shit happens, she is only a girl anyway. That makes me sick.
And Stephen, nobody expects you to know Russian or German or Kirgisian, even if you visit there occasionally. But if you actually emigrated to another country, wouldn't you try to learn the language?
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Leo Enticknap
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posted 01-13-2005 04:34 AM
quote: Michael Schaffer
And Stephen, nobody expects you to know Russian or German or Kirgisian, even if you visit there occasionally. But if you actually emigrated to another country, wouldn't you try to learn the language?
And what makes it so bizarre here is that research has shown that we get a much higher proportion of economic migrants than most other EU countries precisely because of the universality of the English language: either because migrants speak it in the first place (which obviously wasn't the case here) or because they figure that learning English will be a greater economic and professional asset than another European language.
But the fact remains that, as Stephen's anecdote shows, there are significant sections of some communities in which English is not used or understood very much - and sometimes among second generations, too. The reasons for that, IMHO, would have to drag politics in, hence no further elaboration.
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