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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!
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From: Albuquerque, NM
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 06-13-2006 10:19 PM
Been a while since we've had a beer thread around here. As for the research noted below, all I can say is, "I'll drink to that." ![[beer]](graemlins/beer.gif)
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17 beers a day keep prostate cancer away
Theoretically, anyway, especially when taken with pizza with tomato sauce
PORTLAND, Ore. - For many men, a finding by Oregon researchers sounds too good to be true: An ingredient in beer seems to help prevent prostate cancer, at least in lab experiments.
The trouble is you'd theoretically have to drink about 17 beers a day for any potential benefit. And no one's advising that.
Researchers at Oregon State University say that the compound xanthohumol, found in hops, inhibits a protein in the cells along the surface of the prostate gland. The protein acts like a switch that turns on a variety cancers, including prostate cancer.
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Dr. Richard N. Atkins, CEO of the National Prostate Cancer Coalition, said the experiments are encouraging and "perhaps men could take it in pill form someday."
He noted that lycopene, an ingredient in tomatoes, and thus also in tomato sauce, has previously been linked to prostate cancer prevention.
"It's every man's dream to hear that beer and pizza can prevent cancer," he said. "However, the 17 beers and four large pizzas needed to get enough xanthohumol and lycopene to help prevent prostate cancer is unfortunately not advised."
Atkins noted that drinking 17 beers a day can lead to alcoholism and cirrhosis of the liver, and overdoing it on pizza can lead to obesity and other health problems.
"Food, no matter how helpful it may be, is not a full preventive for prostate cancer," he said.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 06-15-2006 12:59 PM
While all those surveys and such can be ridiculous, I feel lots of people use the ridiculous nature of some of those surveys as one means to justify doing bad things to themselves. It's kind of similar to the old saw of bringing up an anecdotal story to either prove one can live a long time doing unhealthy things or die early even if you're trying to live healthy.
For instance you have the one that goes, "my cousin's uncle knew a guy who knew some other guy that drank a fifth of Jack and smoked 3 packs of cigarettes every day and lived to be 112!"
And then you have the other one that goes, "I've got a friend who knew this guy who competed in Ironman triathalons, ran 5 miles every day, lifted weights, ate a strict vegetarian diet and dropped dead anyway at 45 from a massive heart attack."
There are people who live very long or very short lives regardless of what they do their bodies. But those folks are clearly in the minority. Someone who could smoke like a chimney stack and live to be 100 regardless of that habit would have lottery winning jackpot luck.
One's own genetics will have some influence on whether you get a certain kind of cancer, have high choleterol or die of a certain kind of disease or condition. But the way you live will have a huge effect on increasing or lowering those odds against you.
In the end, it's all a kind of gamble. I think odds are pretty high if I smoked three packs of cigarettes and drank a fifth of Jack Daniels everyday I probably wouldn't live to see age 50.
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 06-15-2006 03:11 PM
quote: Bobby Henderson
While all those surveys and such can be ridiculous, I feel lots of people use the ridiculous nature of some of those surveys as one means to justify doing bad things to themselves.
Which is surely another argument against taking them too seriously or publicising them much outside medical circles. Another one of these stories I read reported that when a study was done which suggested that circumcised men were less likely to transmit HIV, the health authorities in some African country took it to heart and encouraged as much of its male population as possible to have the snip. The result was that HIV infection rates quadrupled within a year, because an urban legend quickly became established that circumcised men could sleep with as many people as they liked without any risk.
As far as I can tell, the diet thing is a matter of basic common sense, not wacko theories or dodgy medicines. Make it roughly balanced, but if you've got a specific problem or issue (for example, I'm allergic to saturated dairy fat - eating anything with butter or cheese in it puts me at risk of anaphylactic shock, hence I eat all the grapefruits to make up the calcium deficiency caused by cutting dairy out of my diet), try and work round it.
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