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Chris Hipp
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From: Mesquite, Tx (east of Dallas)
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posted 09-30-2006 08:53 PM

Why is it that so many people will not open the second door when entering or exiting through a double door?

I can only think of three explanations:

1. People are lazy
2. It is considered rude(?)
3. people are sheep and are confused with why no other person has tried using the other door and to spare themselves from looking foolish they take no action.

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David Stambaugh
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posted 09-30-2006 10:23 PM

I don't understand. If I'm walking by myself through a double door, and only need to open 1 of them to get through, why would I open both of them? [Confused]

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Steve Scott
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posted 09-30-2006 10:53 PM

I think Chris had a long line that annoyingly chose to file through one of the possible two doors, rather than opening a larger opening for the saunter out...

I call into question the same logic of drivers who refuse to use the left lane a passing lane. [Roll Eyes]

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Michael Gonzalez
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posted 09-30-2006 10:53 PM

Unless your just kidding David what I think Chris is referring to is that if a crowd of people like say a group of people exiting a theater after a show, the entire line of people will go out through the same door of the double door instead of using both doors and thus being able to exit easier and faster.

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Randy Stankey
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posted 09-30-2006 11:05 PM

My guess is that most people, being sheep, follow along with the crowd.

It is traditional to always enter or exit through the right hand side of a set of double hung doors. That way, people don't run into each other.

Most people in a crowd don't want to break tradition.

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Chris Hipp
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posted 09-30-2006 11:43 PM

Here is what I mean.

There are ten people exiting single file through one side of the double door. One person needs to enter through the same set of doors, but instead of opening the other door they will stand there and wait for the whole line to go through and then use the same door.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 09-30-2006 11:55 PM

Well in that situation, I think I would stand and wait for the people to come out, just out of courtesy. There is always the chance that one of the cattle will break free of the herd and bust through the second door, risking injury to my person.

We have four, count'em four sets of double doors in the front of our building. (Two sets inner, and two outer.) We usually prop at least half, and sometimes all, of them open at the end of a show (depending on crowd size). If we somehow forget to do this, without fail the crowd will ALL squeeeeeze through one door, even though they could easily push on any of the other doors to open them.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-01-2006 01:43 AM

In the situation that Chris gave, I go for option #4: Some people are freakin' morons! When I go into a place that has double doors, I don't care if people are coming out... I'll use the other door to go in. That's usually how it works, anyway. So far this has caused no catastrophes, but then again people know I will ruin their shit if they mess with me.

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Charles Greenlee
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posted 10-01-2006 02:31 AM

Or, when we had one of our doors break, the closer broke, we locked it. But we had the 2nd door, in the double door set, unlocked and usable, not to mention, I'd also unlock the exit doors, which are with the entrance doors, to add a 3/4 chance of them getting in. Yet people will go to the locked door, and tug, and tug, and jiggle, adn cup their hand on their brow and look in, and jiggle, and knok. I can't tell you how many customers I had to go show that the other doors open too. I tell you, must come from drinknig out of the local river or something.

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Michael Gonzalez
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posted 10-01-2006 01:10 PM

Nah, it because of public edu'ma'cation. [Razz]

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Chad Souder
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posted 10-01-2006 04:43 PM

quote: Joe Redifer
but then again people know I will ruin their shit if they mess with me.

That's funny stuff and I'm not being sarcastic. You made me laugh out loud all by my lonesome, which is not usual.

quote: Charles Greenlee
Or, when we had one of our doors break, the closer broke, we locked it.

Whoah, don't let the fire marshall read that. I think you need to keep all doors free to open and if the closer breaks, you just make sure you close it when the show starts, until you can get it fixed. Here, our doors are required to close on their own and never be propped open for fire reasons, but if a closer breaks you must keep a door opening freely until you can get it fixed.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 10-01-2006 10:09 PM

That must be the reason for those dopey "This door must be unlocked during business hours" signs you see all over the place. Apparently they need to tell the employees which doors to unlock?!

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Rick Hunter
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posted 10-02-2006 02:41 AM

quote: Randy Stankey
It is traditional to always enter or exit through the right hand side of a set of double hung doors. That way, people don't run into each other.

Maybe in the northern hemisphere...<g>

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Charles Greenlee
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posted 10-02-2006 11:50 AM

quote: Chad Souder
Whoah, don't let the fire marshall read that. I think you need to keep all doors free to open and if the closer breaks, you just make sure you close it when the show starts, until you can get it fixed. Here, our doors are required to close on their own and never be propped open for fire reasons, but if a closer breaks you must keep a door opening freely until you can get it fixed.

Not locked where the pushbar won't open them, but locked where pulling the handle from outside won't open them. If a fire starts, and you go running an screaming into the door, and hit the bar, it will let you through, no violations here.

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Chad Souder
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posted 10-02-2006 07:54 PM

Ahh, that clarifies it. You mean latched, not locked.

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