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Topic: Man I'm a dork....Saw "The Godfather" for the first time tonight
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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?"
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From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 12-16-2006 09:42 PM
I doubt that "Italians" enjoy the films more than "non-Italians". These films (at least the orginal parts 1 and 2) are recognized as true classics everywhere.
I think they are timeless masterpieces on many levels, from the storytelling to the acting to technical aspects. Interestingly, "the Godfather" was voted #2 "best shot" movie of the second half of the 20th century a few years ago by American Cinematographer, because of the expressive, eerie lighting and stylish color schemes. (#1 was "Lawrence of Arabia, BTW.)
They are much more than just "Mafia flicks". That's what Paramount originally wanted when they started the production as a low budget project with the then little known Coppola as director because they could find anybody else who wanted to do such an insignificant "gangster movie".
Coppola and Puzo instead gave them an American mythology which incorporated all the classic themes of leaving the "old country" for reasons of economic hardship or persecution and coming to the "new world" with nothing but a name (which then gets changed by the Ellis Island officer), growing up in the "jungle" of the immigration slums and making it to the top by nothing but determination and ruthlessness.
I thought the 3rd part wasn't quite as bad as some found it, but it doesn't quite rise to the level of the original two movies either - part 2 hadn't originally been planned, but the material was already outlined in the book. Still, it has some good elements and it manages to close the circle with Michael Corleone dying rich, old and lonely in the village that his father had fled from, hidden in a basket, many decades before.
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-17-2006 12:10 AM
Jackie Mason had a great joke that he used on the "Borscht Belt"
"How could the Italians have ever concocted something like the Mafia without the Jews to show them how? Meyer Lansky...he was their Henry Kissinger!!"
And as Robert Lacey pointed out in his biography of Lansky "Little Man", shortly after the release of GFII actor Lee Strasberg recieved a personal phone call from Lansky complementating him on his performance. After all, both men came from the same neighborhood during the same time period.
And it was Rabbi Judah L. Magnes and the Kehilliah that first documented crime and vice on New Yorks Lower East Side, coining some of the "slang terms" still popular today.
Interestingly, Jewish mobsters, who were closly associated with the Italian Mafia, were probably more violent than both the Italians and Irish put together!
But actually, all ethenic groups have had their organized crime gangs. And as for organzied crime in America, lest we forget that the Irish were there long before the Jews and Italians.
Anyhow, back to the Godfather triology. The 1st film closly follows the book, but there are differences and omissions. THe book has a definate ending. GF Part II does a good job of explaining Vito's early life, but that is the only similarity to the book. Pat III has nothing to do with the book at all. One thing about part III that most people have agreed on: Sophia Copolla just about ruins the film.
K
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