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Damien Taylor
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Once again eBay has shown itself to be the source of some really weird stuff.

Ive received two full reels of what the tails told me was "Screen Test" "Ted Roter Productions" Further inspection revealed it to be full blown porno intercut with slate markers.

There was some pretty bad water damage and i've had to turf about quarter of one reel.

My question is, does anyone know anything about the name. The film is two reels of 35mm Eastman LPP, Edge Datecode 1984. I'm imagining this stuff to be completely worthless, am i right?

Also is there any way to repair less severe water damage. It was so bad in some parts huge 2 frame chunks of emulsion were falling off. These have been excised, but theres some watermarks on the rest, can these be cleaned by running it through something?

Cheers [beer]
Damien

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Randy Stankey
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As to an actual $$ value I couldn't tell you what it's worth but, AFAIK, porn on 35mm is exceedingly rare these days. The vast majority of porn is shot on video. 35mm is too expensive for most outfits.

Even if it's not worth a lot of money it's probably worth keeping just for curiosity value.

The caveat is that if there are underage "actors" in the film you should BURN IT RIGHT NOW! You do NOT want to be even remotely associated with kiddie porn! Get rid of it!

As to the water damage. I'm not an expert in movie film but I do have some experience fixing water damaged still photography film. If the damage isn't too severe you can rewash the film. Soak it in the proper chemical bath. (Usually water and wetting agent.) Then hang it up to dry in a moderately warm, dust free environment to dry. In the photography lab I worked at when I was in college, we had special film drying cabinets where we hung film to dry. I'm only really guessing here. I've never tried to do any more than the most basic of repairs on 35mm motion picture film.

I'm sure there's a lab, somewhere, you could have do the work for you but I don't know how much it's going to cost you.

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Brad Miller
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If you had not have unreeled the film, you could've slopped FilmGuard onto the sides of the roll generously (or dunked it into a container of it), let it sit for an hour and ran it probably without a glitch.

Been there done that countless times with roof leaks over platters.

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Damien Taylor
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The majority of the ultra bad damage had been done by badly rusting film cans which must predate the film by at least 4 decades and was completely beyond help. Brad, I will try running the rest of the not so bad parts through film guard to remove some of the 'blotching'.

Goodness knows how it ended up in Australia, i bought it off a guy who sold 16mm features in Victoria. A lot of the rest of the reel that i inspected had what i probably incorrectly call 'frame bleed'. where i presume a badly threaded camera captured a little bit of the bottom of the preceding frame on the top of the next.

It's definitely a curiosity, all adults from what i rolled out Randy. Now i just need a projector, or at least a rewinder [Roll Eyes]

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John Wilson
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No, don't run it through FG..SOAK it in FG. If you unspool it it's too late.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Damien Taylor
where i presume a badly threaded camera captured a little bit of the bottom of the preceding frame on the top of the next.
A lot of that stuff was printed that way. Probably a blowup from 16.

Please, post pictures. [Razz]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Damn, we're going to have to contract Akamai to host the daily updates. [Big Grin]

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Steve Guttag
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quote: Brad Miller
Been there done that countless times with roof leaks over platters.
Damn Platters!

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Damien Taylor
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Nothing could have saved the part I unspooled John, the film base was rotting from rust. You would have thought a 16mm film collector would know how to store 35mm. [Confused]

I'll do some work safe scans Tim [Razz]

Funnily, or unfunnily enough all the slates have scene '69' on them. For just a screen test some of these 'actors' sure gave a lot away for free.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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Could sell it on to someone who has Tyler Durden-esque ambitions for their booth.

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John Wilson
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quote:
Damn Platters!
THAT'S funny...couldn't help yourself, eh? [Wink]

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Jim Bedford
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Now if they'd been Stallone's screen tests as "The Italian Stallion" they might be worth something. And probably more to Sly.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Damien Taylor
all the slates have scene '69' on them.
I wonder if this was part of a feature, made up to "look" like outtakes?

HEY, does this have an OPTICAL soundtrack.. or none at all? This would tell much. For some reason, I can't see them blowing up just outtakes (or dailies!) to 35mm (which, from your description of the frame lines, sounds like what it is - I used to run a lot of those in the 70s).

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John Wilson
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Hey Tim

What's happened to the Screen Attractions website? It's not doing too much.

Email me please.

John

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Damien Taylor
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Yeah flat with optical sound.

The last slate had 'the end' written on it too, perhaps the movie was called 'screen test' [Confused]

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