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Dave Williams
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Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 07-15-2007 09:21 AM
My grandparents on my mothers side just finished nearly two years working records and documents of our lineage. We pretty much knew our Italian heritage, but there is also english and french that we knew little of. That is until they finished their research, and it is much more clear and very surprising...
As it turns out, I am a direct descendant of King John of England. This is the same King John of Shakespeares 'King John' and of 'Robin Hood' lore. He would be my Grandfather to the 22nd degree, or something like that. I am still getting the data.
I am also a direct descendant of King Louis the VIII of France. There was a marriage between the royal families down the line to increase the bloodlines and to seal rifts of war.
Thier descendants came to the colonies to help form the Commonwealth of Virginia, and fought in the Revolutionary War for the colonies. Thier descendants came to California in the Mid 1850's.
Apparently I am unable to declare myself as any part of the royal family as our decendents did flip the finger during the revolution and were considered to be no longer in existence. Also apparently as soon as a female propogates to a non royal you lose. So no being named 'sir' or 'lord' anytime soon. Dangit.
The Italian liniage was from Polermo, Sicily, and remained there until 1903 when they came to New York. They moved to Louisiana in Early 1930's, and then California in the mid 1950's. It was then that the families merged to create my current bloodline.
I personally was shocked and had a hard time believing it, but the records are confirmed. It has been documented with the Sons of the American Revolution; all of the men in our line are now eligible for full membership. My brothers and I are currently debating membership.
Once again, just really shocking to learn all of this. Genealogy can be fun. Of course King John was a pretty bad king overall, and it might explain my overall nature of wanting to secretely overthrow everything.
As I get through the rest of the data, I will post the most notorious of the line. It will be very interesting to see who and how my blood line affected human history.
Ciao.
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Michael Schaffer
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Posts: 4143
From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 07-16-2007 11:51 PM
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As it turns out, I am a direct descendant of King John of England. This is the same King John of Shakespeares 'King John' and of 'Robin Hood' lore. He would be my Grandfather to the 22nd degree, or something like that.
I am also a direct descendant of King Louis the VIII of France. There was a marriage between the royal families down the line to increase the bloodlines and to seal rifts of war.
Apparently I am unable to declare myself as any part of the royal family as our decendents did flip the finger during the revolution and were considered to be no longer in existence. Also apparently as soon as a female propogates to a non royal you lose. So no being named 'sir' or 'lord' anytime soon. Dangit.
Nah, that's not true. They only tell you that to deprive you of what's rightfully yours. You are the true king of both England and France, and let no one tell you otherwise. You should go to England and claim your throne. How do you do that? Well, it's a step by step process. First you take a plane to London. Once you are there, tell people who you are, and you will slowly gather a following. It helps if you promise them stuff. Whatever they want to hear. Rewards, lands, titles, stuff like that. Once you are king, you don't have to give them anything. When you have gathered a large following, overthrow the royal family, torture them, kill their followers. That's about it. Then you are King Dave.
To claim your throne in France, repeat the above steps. That will be a little easier since you already have one kingdom. Plus there is no king in France right now, so they will be taken by surprise and there is no one to compete with you. If there are any other claimants, torture and kill them, too.
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Stephen Furley
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Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-17-2007 06:15 AM
I knew both parents, and one grandmother; but know very little about my family on either side. It is something that was never talked about, and I ever brought it up, the subject was quickly changed. Some sort of skeletons in the cupboard I assume, but I've no idea what. My father's family came from Gloucestershire, and my mother's from Peckham, in South London. I have some Welsh blood in me somewhere, I assume on my father's side, as Gloucestershire is not far from Wales.
I did have one relative, I think he was a great uncle, or something of that sort, who was a fascist. He was in the British Union of Fascists in the '30s, and I think must have been something significant in the party, because he had a photograph of himself sitting on the platform at a party meeting, with Oswald Mosely just a couple of places away.
He also supported the Nazis, which was not that uncommon, a fair number of people in this country supported Hitler in the early days, but he continued to do so until his death, in about 1961. How he got on during the War, I don't know; it must have made life rather difficult for him, though he would have been too old to have been called up to serve. He always said that Britain should have been on Hitler's side, against the Russians.
I only ever met him once or twice, and I was too young at the time to understand the events of twenty years or so before, but I do remember there was something about him that I didn't like; he made me feel very uncomfortable, even at that age.
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Shane Cooper
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Posts: 232
From: Little Rock, Arkansas
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 07-19-2007 01:53 AM
While not related to Kings or royalty, (that I know of), I am very proud of my family history. I am a descendent of James Clemens, who with his wife Sophia helped to start the Longtown Settlement in Ohio. Longtown was one of the first primarily black settlements in the country and was established in the early 1800s in Darke County Ohio.
They established a school with the Quakers that taught both blacks and whites, and were conductors on the underground railroad during the civil war. Members of my family volunteered from the settlement and fought with the 54th Massachusetts during the civil war.
The Clemens Family Homestead is still standing and is now listed on the National Register of historical places. The site is currently being restored for tourism.
Here is a link on the Clemens Homestead if you are a history geek.
Clemens Homestead
On the other side of my family, my Uncle Bill (William) and Aunt Daisy Myers were the first blacks to integrate the all white Philadelphia suburb of Levittown by buying a home in 1957. I remember as a kid my mom telling me the stories of my family members that had rocks thrown at their house and a cross burned on the lawn so I had a chance at a better future. My Uncle Bill passed away in 1987, but their family was issued an apology by the state in 1999.
My Aunt Daisy wrote a book about the experience: Sticks n' Stones: The Myers Family in Levittown.
Here is an article from a few years ago.
Daisy Myers
On a more current note if you live in the Dayton, OH area, you probably have heard of my uncle Bob Ross, who owns several car dealerships. My uncle Bob passed in 1997, but my cousins currently run the dealerships.
That is it for me.
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