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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 04-14-2008 09:13 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is an Aged/Damaged Film style of plug-in for Final Cut Pro available here. It's cheap and is really quite good, but it isn't perfect since the author of the plug-in isn't really familiar with the effects sloppy exhibition can cause since he doesn't work in the industry. He has asked that I supply him with more information so that his next update of the filter can be more realistic. That is where the members of Film-Tech come in.

-Can anyone post a picture of a typical reel change cue mark? The filter already has similar cue marks, but they are the wrong shape/duration. I'm looking for the ones that have the weird yellow outline/inline if possible.

-Can anyone post pictures of film that has emulsion scratches? Either a shot being displayed onscreen or a scan of the film itself would be cool.

-Anyone have images of lab splices?

-Can anyone recommend anything else that a perfect damaged/aged film filter should have? I've already suggested splicemarks and the excessive dirt around them, etc.

I had better get many responses to this thread. I shall haunt anyone who does not reply with great examples after I die.

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Stephen Furley
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 - posted 04-15-2008 02:05 AM      Profile for Stephen Furley   Email Stephen Furley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If the film is very old and shrunken you might just see the very edge of the perforations on the right side of the frame.

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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 - posted 04-23-2008 11:35 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Lab splice [Big Grin]

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 04-24-2008 12:24 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That rules on so many levels.

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Jim Bedford
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 - posted 04-24-2008 10:19 AM      Profile for Jim Bedford   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Bedford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Love it Paul as the subtitle killed two birds with a single stone. What's the film?

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Paul Mayer
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 - posted 04-24-2008 12:29 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Jim Bedford
What's the film?
I wish I knew. That image was posted somewhere on these forums but I couldn't find it.
So I posted a copy of it from my machine.

Cue marks, scope print, backing scratches. These look something like the old MGM cues with the 16-point stars.

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Carl Martin
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 - posted 04-24-2008 06:00 PM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
iirc, the lab splice 4 posts up came from ken loach's sweet sixteen.

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Patrick Dunn
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 - posted 04-26-2008 10:46 PM      Profile for Patrick Dunn   Author's Homepage   Email Patrick Dunn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It may be strange but there is what looks a lab splice in this video at 0:55.

I think it's the tracking from the tape, but make it thinner and it looks just like when a lab splice goes through a projector.

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