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Jim Bedford
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 - posted 06-01-2008 08:57 AM      Profile for Jim Bedford   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Bedford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Watching the Universal lot fire this morning on CNN it was noted that the Universal film archive was on fire as well. Wonder what will be lost from this one.

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Ron Yost
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 - posted 06-01-2008 10:43 AM      Profile for Ron Yost   Email Ron Yost   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Live feed from KNBC:

http://www.knbc.com/videostream/10954229/detail.html

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Adam Martin
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 - posted 06-01-2008 11:22 AM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
It was a video library that was damaged, not the film archive.

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Allison Parsons
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Maybe they can hire Jack Black and Mos Def to recreate the videos they lost... [Roll Eyes]

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 06-01-2008 12:46 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A lot of movie studios are storing original negatives and safety masters of films in places like deep underground vaults far away from Hollywood.

Hutchinson, KS is home to one of these vaults. It even has a popular tourist museum. Many visitors check out this place and the space museum there. Things like valuable art, rare stamps, microfilms and various elements of motion pictures are stored 650 feet underground. The temperature at this former salt mine usually never wavers from 68° and the humidity level is a constant 40%.

Details are still fuzzy, but from various searches on the topic I have the feeling the video library that was damaged may have been a distribution vault with lots of dupe copies of TV shows to be sent out to various television stations. Hopefully the original master tapes, especially the older analog based ones, were stored elsewhere (such as sites like that in Hutchinson, KS). Tapes can degrade just like film if they are not properly stored.

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Jack Theakston
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Most of Universal's library (at least nitrate) are stored in vaults just outside of Jersey City, NJ. The film vault on the lot is for current productions.

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Phil Hill
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Having been on that lot many times, to me from the live stream/feeds, it looks like one of the video vaults was lost but none of the film vaults were damaged.

The "King Kong" attraction which was totally gutted is on the left side of the pic and the video vault is on the right...the "clock tower" that was struck by lightning in "Back to the Future" was spared but most all the street sets west of the town square set were destroyed.

Bobby's got it right about off-site storage!

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Martin McCaffery
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For what it is worth, NBC Nightly News did refer to it as the "tape" archive, but showed truckloads of film cans being hauled off (and saying they tapes).

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Mike Blakesley
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Another site said a lot of music masters were lost...can anybody confirm that? I always thought most of Universal's music masters were stored in New York.

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Phil Hill
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By far, the BEST pics

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David Stambaugh
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I just looked at a few of the most recent online news reports. They're consistently saying it was copies of movies and TV shows that were lost (in addition to the sets that burned). No "masters" or anything that is not replaceable. Also no mention of music.

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Bobby Henderson
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It's the biggest chunk of the Universal/MCA label country music? Wouldn't a bunch of that stuff be in Nashville?

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Joe Redifer
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Country music was lost? I now declare this fire the greatest thing to ever happen in the history of mankind.

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Brad Allen
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Sure looked like film canisters being carried out as well as video.

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Charles Greenlee
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quote: Joe Redifer
Country music was lost? I now declare this fire the greatest thing to ever happen in the history of mankind.
Aboslutely! I listen to just about every kind of music, except country. Fingernails on a chalkboard actually don't bother me, but country music does have that effect on me instead. [Big Grin]

I'm sure no masters were lost. And I might add, aren't large tapes stored on reels? I reem to remember reel to reel tape players. So those pics possibly could be reeled tape. Just a thought.

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