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Author Topic: Roy Disney has passed away at 79 Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-16-2009 02:34 PM                     Roy Disney has dead of cancer at 79. He was the nephew of the studio founder Walt Disney and son of Roy O. Disney. Roy Disney Dec. 16th, 2009 Roy O. Disney Dec. 20th. 1971 Walt Disney Dec. 15th. 1966  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 12-16-2009 03:20 PM                  Not a good time of year for the ol' Disney family! Are there any Disneys left at Disney? I read he had 16 million shares of their common stock at the time of his death. Being worth a half billion dollars just because your uncle was a visionary doesn't suck. In any case I wish the best for his family.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-16-2009 04:31 PM                     What terrible news. Certainly an inspirational man and the catalyst for the much needed change at the top of the Disney company in 1984, and then again only a few years ago, change which has just started to bear fruit. I'm very pleased he got to see (just barely) the third resurrection of 2-D animation at Disney before he passed. On a side note, adding to the coincidence Bill noted in his first post, Lillian Disney, Walt's wife, also passed away in December.  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 12-16-2009 04:42 PM                     My concern is that as the Disneys depart the Disney company is going further down the tube. I'm sure Walt has been turning in his grave for years. RIP Roy.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-16-2009 08:37 PM                        quote: Robert E. Allen My concern is that as the Disneys depart the Disney company is going further down the tube. I'm sure Walt has been turning in his grave for years. I admire Walt Disney as much as anyone -- God knows, we've made scads of money off of his movies. But if the company had continued on the path it was on, it probably would have been bankrupt eventually. He was only catering to the G-rated kiddie crowd and the company was getting less and less relevant. Today's Disney caters quite nicely to just about every age bracket, which has enabled them to grow exponentially since Walt's time. While I don't agree with everything they do (and I'll always wonder what Epcot would have become under his direction), I think Walt would be glad they are still doing quite well as an independent company, as opposed to getting taken over by a conglomerate, the way every other entertainment-based company did.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-16-2009 09:43 PM                     I dunno...I think Walt would have adapted his business with the times...seeing as he often pushed for adoption of new things/ideas. However, I don't think the greed factor would have been there as much. They still would be a pricey company but not quite as over-the-top. Of course, this is all speculation. Steve  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 12-17-2009 12:06 AM                     Di$ney IS a conglomerate now. I read that Walt thought commercials on TV were "bad showmanship"- sad that ABC doesn't at least present its shows with good showmanship (meaning NO stupid logos on the screen!) since his company owns it.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-17-2009 01:50 AM                        quote: Jesse Skeen I read that Walt thought commercials on TV were "bad showmanship" Maybe so, but his shows always had commercials in them. He probably thought commercials were a "necessary evil." He was a smart businessman, not just a great showman.  |  IP: Logged Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-17-2009 05:25 AM                     quote: Mike Blakesley Maybe so, but his shows always had commercials in them. I'll go one further, his shows WERE commercials! The "Disneyland" series got people to his park, as well as the infamous live broadcase of the part opening. Those programs definitely combined Disney's skill at showmanship as well as business.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-17-2009 11:02 AM                        Hillary - correct of course. I don't know why I didn't think of that. He used his show to promote Disney World and Epcot too.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-17-2009 12:57 PM                     Walt's in a GRAVE !? I thought he was just waiting in cryo somewhere.  |  IP: Logged Robert E. Allen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1078 From: Checotah, Oklahoma Registered: Jul 2002 posted 12-17-2009 03:12 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley He was only catering to the G-rated kiddie crowd and the company was getting less and less relevant. Here's where you and I part company Mike. You do not have to have nudity, profanity, sex or blood and gore special effects to be relevant. I started in this business in 1950 and for many years after that the studios served the entire movie going public without any of that. They have since created an appetite in SOME of the public for that garbage and in doing so have limited their audience.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-17-2009 06:17 PM                        quote: Robert E. Allen You do not have to have nudity, profanity, sex or blood and gore special effects to be relevant. Very true. But have you seen ANY of the Disney movies from the last 30 years? You make it sound like they haven't done anything good since Walt died. Have they dabbled in areas where he might not have? Yes. But they also haven't slapped the Disney name on anything containing the qualities you listed.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-17-2009 07:06 PM                     Of course, you know, Disney has had specialty divisions. Touchstone for the PG-13 -type material, and of course, Miramax was part of Disney (from 1993 onwards; not from its inception in 1979). Ironically, though, Miramax is now gone as a seperate studio... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-17-2009 07:55 PM                     Not forget Disney also had Hollywood Pictures.  |  IP: Logged

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