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Greg Anderson
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Is that question too personal? Well, I'd say I already have "too much information" about some of the people in this group so, why not?

If you are a smoker, what do you smoke? How often? (We can limit this discussion to legal substances, of course.)

As for me, I'm not a smoker but, wow! When I was a teenaged usher in the 1980s they allowed smoking in our lobby and... wow!

(As a related question, is there a place where smoking is still allowed in movie theatre lobbies?)

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Stephen Furley
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Smoked two cigarettes in my life, when aged about eight. The first tasted disgusting, and the second was no better, so I never smoked again.

Smoking is now banned by law in just about all enclosed spaces, other than the home, in England.

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Richard P. May
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Nope.

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Matt Johnston
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Never have and never will.

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Bobby Henderson
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I never became a smoker, in part because of the memory of my mother's father dying of lung cancer. The last time I saw him his left lung had been removed. One afternoon my grandfather was resting on the couch, shirtless. A thick bandage was strapped to his rib cage and gooey yellow mucus was oozing out from underneath the bandage. Really gross. That image didn't fit with all the cool advertising imagery I had seen about smoking up to that point. Both of my parents were smokers, but they quit "cold turkey" after seeing what it did to my grandfather.

Oklahoma ranks 3rd in the nation (behind Kentucky and West Virginia) in highest prevalence of smoking among adults. Still, the state has improved to where 3 out of 4 adult residents do not smoke.

Oklahoma lags in a number of other areas. We still allow smoking in bars and certain other enclosed spaces. Although one sports bar and another tavern in town have gone smoke free. Restaurants in Oklahoma can allow smoking only if they have a separately ventilated smoking area. Pretty costly proposition. That basically means the vast majority of restaurants are smoke free.

AFAIK, you can't smoke in movie theaters at all in Oklahoma. Although I occasionally see an asshole or two light up inside a theater while the movie is going. The last couple times I've seen it happen other audience members have either directly told the person to put out the cigarette or alerted management about it.

Many of my coworkers and local friends have quit smoking simply because the cost of the habit has become way too expensive. Still, I think hell might freeze over before our accountant and chief neon tube bender quit smoking willingly. Those two guys are just going to keep smoking until cancer, COPD, heart disease or something else kills them.

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Greg Anderson
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Speaking of slick advertisements, I recall that in the early 1980s at the UA theatre in Long Beach, California we distributed one of those freebie entertainment magazines called “Moviegoer” and all of the ads in the thing were for cigarettes. Then, about a year after we started putting those in the lobby, the manager had us put a 35mm commercial for Kool cigarettes into some of our trailer sets. It had been a while since anyone had ever seen any kind of moving-picture-and-sound ad for cigarettes and many of the employees thought it was very strange. The complaints from customers were immediate and, as I recall, the ads were pulled pretty quickly.

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Joe Redifer
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I have never even considered smoking any kind of substance. To me, the thought of smoking is simply disgusting. I do not understand what the appeal is. What makes anyone think "Hey, yeah, this will be a good idea!"? I don't like it when people smoke around me or smoke on their own before being around me. I don't even let smokers ride in my car because they will stink it up by contacting their clothes to me seats. Sorry, you'll have to take the bus... bye!

I barely even touch alcohol as well. There are a few things I like to drink from time to time, maybe once or twice a year, but I have never really acquired a taste for the stuff. That just means that I am more likely to get killed from a drunk driver since the drunk ones always seem to do the killing AND the surviving. Great people, those drinkers. I really wish the ones who drink and drive would die more instead of kill.

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Jonathan Smith
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I've always wondered this too.

I'm a social smoker. Although it's technically illegal to smoke anywhere indoors in Ohio except in your own home or hotel rooms, I've a few favorite "Smoke Easies" that still allow the habit. So I'll have a few cigarettes every other month for kicks.

I worked at one theatre, the Detroit in Lakewood Ohio, that used to allow you to smoke everywhere except the theatre itself (including the booth, including the lobby, including the restrooms, and including the ticket office outside) until I think 2003.

I could probably still smoke up in the booth if I wanted to, but, frankly, theatre projection rooms were the first places after churches to ban smoking (before hospitals) because of the danger of booth fires when they were running the highly inflammable nitrate stock.

Although we universally use safety film (or worse, digital) these days, I am NOT going to contribute a source of dust to the booth.

IDK WTF got into projectionists to smoke around a $2,000, perishable product that is susceptible to dust; cigarette smoke is a fine, adherent dust.

What I want to know, for those projectionists that work in Nevada, Las Vegas specifically, can patrons from the casinos smoke in the theatres?

Only time I've seen someone smoking in a theatre auditorium (though I've heard stories) was the Don Draper character in the AMC television series "Mad Men" (shot on 35mm film by the way).

I've heard stories about certain former AMC managers lighting up when doing screenings of new films to check for splicing errors, but this was back in the '90s, maybe even the '80s.

I've also heard stories, that are recent, post 2000 about projectionists, literally lighting up in the booth using a Xenon bulb as a "lighter" and the projector exhaust pipe as a "ventilator."

It was, and I assume still is allowed in some theatres, but on the off chance that a patron (probably a poor little kid) looks back and sees you, is it really worth it to get that fix?

IDK, I have a love-hate relationship with smoking; it has killed my grandmother and father, given my other grandfather a bad heart, lungs and a pacemaker, but at the same time, enjoyed in moderation, cigarettes cause basically no harm.

You can smoke a pack a day until you're 30, quit cold-turkey, and you are statistically no more likely to suffer any form of smoking-related illness or cancer than never-smoked-a-cigarette-in-my-lifers. TRUE STORY.

I used to work in a bar, on and off after the 2007 Ohio Smoking Ban, and I used to let people light up in there anyway. We charged a dollar an "ashtray" (a plastic cup filled with water in case we got fined or they did a health inspection), and it was great.

Another true story, auto exhaust is worse than outdoor second-hand smoke, for states inclined like California to ban outdoor smoking next.

WHAT THE FUCK??? You can smoke weed in Caly ("medicinally") but not cigs?!?!

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Joe Redifer
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Paragraphs, man. Look into it.

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Greg Anderson
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quote: Jonathan Smith
You can smoke a pack a day until you're 30, quit cold-turkey, and you are statistically no more likely to suffer any form of smoking-related illness or cancer than never-smoked-a-cigarette-in-my-lifers. TRUE STORY.

Tell that to my dad's oxygen generator. Sure, he quit smoking when he was still a very young, single man and his doctor didn't tell him that his heart and lung problems today are smoking related... but I still don't think it's worth the risk. Also, where's the guarantee that you'll be able to quit cold turkey at the magic age of 30?

Anyhow... I don't mean to lecture you or anyone else. I don't want this to become the "volunteer to let us beat you up" thread.

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Mike Blakesley
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Montana banned smoking in indoor public places (except bars and casinos) five years ago, and last year the ban extended to bars and casinos as well. Results are mixed: The air in the bars is a lot nicer, but now the smokers are standing around outside and littering their butts on the streets. Also, many smokers have stopped gambling because "smoking and gambling go hand in hand," so apparently they're going to the Indian reservations or something, because state tax revenues from gaming are way down.

My parents both smoked. My dad died of a heart attack brought on by pneumonia, but his condition was aggravated by the smoking. I think it's safe to say he'd have lived somewhat longer if not for the smoking.

My mom used to smoke all the time, and quit many years ago. However, I think she still smokes a little -- she just can't completely give it up. She said that "anyone who thinks it's easy to quit smoking has probably never smoked." She said that even if you go years without a cigarette, you NEVER stop craving one. I suppose different people have different results.

I experimented a little when I was in my 20s, and actually enjoyed the "feel" of the smoking, but knew it was a stupid thing to take up so I just stopped before it became a habit. I guess it's nice to know "how" to smoke in case I ever become a dramatic actor, but that's as far as it's going to go with me.

I don't exactly see why anybody would take up smoking these days, not only for the health risks but because it's so hard to find a place to enjoy the habit. And, you tend to be repulsive to many members of the opposite sex. And, it's horrifically expensive. But yet teens still pick up smoking. More than anything else, this proves that many of them are idiots.

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Paul Mayer
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As stated above, "never have, never will."

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Jonathan Smith
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Way to judge an age group that is trying to be "cool" for the same bad habit that many of us picked up at that age.

Like I said, I've quit. I smoke maybe once every other month. If that kills me, so be it.

But to criticize people who smoke (our president is a smoker) is just silly. . .

You're not snorting crack, or popping pills. There are far worse things for your health than smoking.

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Sam Graham
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To put things in perspective, my high school had a school-sanctioned STUDENT SMOKING SECTION up until the mid-eighties. And anyone of any age could smoke there.

We had an auditorium in town with smoking allowed until just a few years ago. Billy Joe's Picture Show, a low-rent dinner/bar operation, would show Harry Potter movies with whole families sitting around a table, kids eating pizza while mom and dad lit up. Iowa has since banned smoking pretty much anywhere indoors that isn't a casino or private residence, and Billy Joe's has since closed.

I never took it up even though my parents did, my sister did, most of my girlfriends did, and Wife #1 did. (And yes, that's what killed her).

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Sean Weitzel
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I'm just old enough to remember when smoking was still pretty much everywhere here in California - restaurants, theaters (lobbies only) airplanes, even my high school had a smoking section for the seniors who were over 18 (and had a permission slip from the parents).

I smoked when I was in high school because we all thought we were cool. Nobody on either side of my family ever had a smoking habit so it wasn't a parental influence. I also looked old enough that the local liquor store had no problem selling me hard packs of Marlboro when I would go on my breaks from the video store. My parents caught me a few times and really made me feel like shit so I stopped for a while.

My first job after high school was a computer repair shop run by a retired old school superintendent who had a two pack a day Viceroy habit. We worked in a small shop in an industrial park and by the late afternoon you couldn't see the back shop area from the front lobby due to Jack's smoke haze hanging over everything. It also didn't help when Jack would sit down to wrench on an apple II and his ashes were falling into the keyboard. I picked up the habit again briefly while working there and soon after got it in my head to switch to a tobacco pipe. I really enjoyed that pipe. The flavor was wonderful and I felt i might not be doing as much damage as I would with conventional cigarettes - plus pipe tobacco is cheaper.

A year or two later, I got REALLY sick with tonsillitis and was in so much pain that I stopped smoking entirely for a couple weeks. It was enough to break the craving that I really didn't think I had at the time. I never smoked again and can't even remember what it felt like to crave a smoke. I still enjoy the smell of pipe tobacco if I am around it. If not for the negative health effects I would probably still enjoy smoking a pipe.
My only 'vice' so to speak is my appreciation for good wine and beer. I've been home brewing for 10 years and quite enjoy it. I figure beer and wine in moderation will be a little less likely to kill me young than smoking would.

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