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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 05-08-2010 11:15 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK, so they pulled off a winner with Toy Story 2, and TS3 looks like it's going to be good. But, next comes Cars 2 and Monsters Inc. 2......if it wasn't for Pixar's stellar track record I would be worried about this. Actually I'm worried anyway... surely those movies will do tons of business, but are the days of the near-universal good reviews for Pixar movies numbered?

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Brad Miller
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Ask me that after I see Toy Story 3 (in 2D).

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Ian Price
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 - posted 05-08-2010 04:41 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I love Pixar, I think John Lassiter is strange, but oh well. [Roll Eyes]

I have a 2-year-old daughter. One way to get her to sit down and shut up for 90-minutes is to put in a film. Her current favorite is The Princess and the Frog.

I have a horrid distaste for movie and TV programming aimed at a specific age group. Think Teletubbies, Barnie the Dinosaur, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, Angelina Ballerina and the like. They talk down to children. They are aimed at such a narrow age group that they offer nothing for the adult forced to watch it with them.

As a result, I really appreciate Disney, Pixar and Studio Ghibli films. At least they offer a wide range of enjoyment. And Mike, I liked Wall-E just fine.

But I must say that I liked Toy Story and Cars least of all, so I am not looking forward to the sequels. But of course I will saddle up Olivia, pay my weekday, early AM, Senior discount and pony up for the mortgage on a popcorn and juice drink and take her to see what ever pablum they are offering. [eyes]

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Kurt Zupin
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I have faith in Pixar, they don't do sequels. And when they do they have a reason to. They don't just pick some crappy story and make a cookie cutter of the last movie. I'm looking forward to Toy Story alot, hopefully they will not let us down.

And is it really jumping the shark? Has Disney jumped the shark with some of the horrible movies they've made? One bad movie from Pixar does not make a horrible company.

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Mike Blakesley
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Well, it's just that...since Disney bought Pixar, there have been more Pixar sequels announced than in all their history combined. So, I'm not speculating one way or the other; it's just a discussion topic. Don't freak out.

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 05-10-2010 09:21 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have to say I'm concerned.

With nearly all of Pixar's output in the near future being ALL sequels it really speaks to how the stodgy suits are now having the final word on what gets made rather than the far more talented people at Pixar. Wall Street doesn't like anything different. Anything different is risky. Those guys would prefer every movie studio just keep making the same movie over and over and over again while selling ever more tickets with each re-gurge.
[Roll Eyes]

Pixar has shown it is good at making new movies rather than merely making sequels of old movies. Why fix what isn't broke?

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Kurt Zupin
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Mike I was't freaking out, just adding more questions to the topic. It will be an interesting year for sure with Pixar. Only time will tell with all of this.

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Justin Hamaker
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If it was anyone other than Pixar, I would be very concerned. But Pixar has an impeccable track record. Until they put out a real dud, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

The difference between a Pixar sequel and one by anyone else is Pixar understands "story first". They could have quickly cranked out sequels to any of their films just for the sake of money, but up to this point they've been very conscious of preserving the Pixar name as a mark of quality.

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Frank Angel
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Disney, hence Pixar, if nothing else, are super marketing experts and they know all too well that sequels have built-in title recognition which in and of itself represents big chunks of advertising dollars they don't have to spend. Ever wonder why Hollywood opts to make sequels of BAD movies and even worse TV shows? Because putting quality and originality aside, it simply costs less to promote a title that the entire world already recognizes as a household name than it does to promote a new, unheard-of title.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Frank Angel
it simply costs less to promote a title that the entire world already recognizes as a household name than it does to promote a new, unheard-of title
..which kinda started with "JAWS", Spielberg, Lucas and "Star Wars" - situations that have already sold themselves.

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