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Topic: TSA = Tremendously Stupid Asses
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-25-2010 05:20 PM
Everyone knows the ridiculous extent the TSA is up to regarding "national security" with their new pornography and molesting procedures. I want to help spread this guy's story further to show how out of hand TSA's whole false-sense-of-security is getting.
TSA encounter at SAN
Apparently TSA also feels it should waste more of our tax dollars and start harassing us at other forms of transportation too! link to story
quote: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano hinted this week that the body scanners and "enhanced" pat-downs that have caused a ruckus at airports across the country could be coming to a train station, port or subway near you.
In an interview on "Charlie Rose" that aired Monday, Napolitano said terrorists will continue to seek vulnerabilities in the nation's transportation systems.
"I think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going on to mass transit or to trains or maritime," she said. "So what do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections there?"
Napolitano's comments came as outrage grows over what some call intrusive X-ray scans and pat-downs that the Transportation Security Administration has used to screen airline passengers.
The full-body scanners show a person's contours on a computer in a private room removed from security checkpoints. But critics say they amount to virtual strip searches. Some have complained that the new enhanced pat-downs are humiliating and intrusive, too.
TSA officials say the procedures are necessary to ward off terror attacks like the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound plane last Christmas, allegedly by a Nigerian man who stashed explosives in his underwear.
And the procedures may be on the rise. Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, authored a bill in September that would allow testing of body scanners at certain federal buildings.
Despite attempts online to organize Thanksgiving travelers for a protest dubbed "National Opt-Out Day" on one of the busiest days of the year, very few passengers opted out of the full-body scans.
Napolitano has defended the screening procedures and criticized the protests.
"I really want to say, look, let's be realistic and use our common sense," she said last week, explaining that the screening technology has been in development since before the failed Christmas Day bombing attack last year.
"This is not about the government itself," she said. "We all have a role to play in security."
"And so I really regret some groups saying, 'Well, we don't want to be a part of that,'" she added. "I regret it because it's not what we're all about. What we're all about is shared responsibility."
TSA should be putting all of this wasted money into putting air marshalls on EVERY plane, not this nonsense.
HERE is a lovely video involving a child...
GOP representative Allen West of Florida is apparently the ONLY person who actually understands the reality of this whole bullshit...and I quote:
quote: “There are two aspects of terrorism. One aspect of terrorism is to kill you. The other aspect of terrorism is to create a disruption of your lifestyle through fear and intimidation," he tells the newspaper. "So they have still won, even though the underwear bomber was not successful in killing us. They have still won." West favors profiling likely terrorists at airports instead.
Link to quote
Don't you feel safer now?
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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-25-2010 07:37 PM
quote: Tony Bandiera Jr If any agent EVER did what they did to that little girl to any of my kids they would have a serious problem on their hands.
HAHAHAHA! Yeah right. If you so much as raised your voice to them they would cart you off and you'd probably lose your kid (at least temporarily) in the process. I do agree they shouldn't have to "enhanced screen" kids, but what happens when some dork puts a bomb in a muslim kid's butt? You know they're probably going to try that sometime.
I agree this whole security thing is stupid and out of control, but I think we are stuck with it. Part of the problem is the vast majority of the traveling public figures that it makes them safer (even though it doesn't), so they're willing to put up with it.
To be perfectly fair, the guy in Brad's video was a smartass. To use the phrase "If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested" was stupid. (1) The guy had already agreed to submit to the search, and (2) there's no way he could have somebody arrested for doing that patdown, whether or not they touch his junk, because the agent explained exactly what he was going to do. He should have just grinned and bore it.
Personally as an all-American male, I think the TSA should hire beautiful smiling women to do the patdowns. Then there would be a lineup to get searched.
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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-25-2010 10:25 PM
Jonathan - you're not getting it. There is no solution because there is no problem. The TSA is a "solution" to a problem that does not exist.
Think about what happened every time there's been a terror threat to a plane. (Bomb or whatever.) The TSA had absolutely nothing to do with catching any of those people. It was ordinary citizens, or security in other countries, that did the dirty work. The TSA has done nothing but scare people, intimidate people, and confiscate a bunch of bottled water and nail clippers, not to mention tons of "weapons" like nail files and pocket knives that were never intended to be used as weapons.
All the TSA does is react to things that have happened, with the assumption that the same thing is going to happen again. But in reality the terrorists keep moving on to new things. How many more underwear bombers were there after the first guy? None. How many shoe bombers? None. How many guys trying to hijack a plane with boxcutters? None.
Even so, we're stuck with what we have, because no way is the government going to say "OK, everyone...we realize that this multi-billion dollar agency we created is completely impotent and unnecessary, so we're going back to the good old days of simple metal detectors, and by the way you can keep your shoes on too."
Joe's right on the money on this. We're just lucky there are plenty of brave non-pussies on every plane who will thwart any nonsense that happens. But they're probably not going to have much to do, because the terrorists are moving on. Me, I expect them to hit a non-flying target next time. Probably a shopping mall or a sports arena, or (most likely) the Internet.
Or who says they have to get a bomb ON a plane? Why not just walk into an airport lobby and set something off in the "non sterile area?" That could kill hundreds of people right there. So eventually the security checkpoint will probably be about 5 miles from the airport, and you'll have to get out of your car to be searched. And have the car searched too.
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