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Brad Miller
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I've been using mostly HP scanners and it isn't their quality of manufacturing, it is their software, their evil software!

Has anyone used a scanner that can accept a stack of, say 30 pages, and scan them to pdf without ANY "auto cropping" nonsense?

I want to scan 8.5 x 11 inch pieces of paper, and I want the scan to reflect that, not where some silly un-defeatable software THINKS the scan should be cropped.

Mucho gracias. [Cool]

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Mike Blakesley
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I don't know about specific models but I can tell you that the software in the Epson scanner I have will do everything or nothing -- you can configure it very easily. I've had 2 previous HP scanners and hated them both.

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Joe Redifer
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Another vote for Epson scanners here, though I've never tried doing what you want to do (presumably to scan porn mags ooops I mean manuals for the warehouse).

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Chris Slycord
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If you're ok with using linux, this'll be easy no matter what your particular scanner is since you'd use the same scanning software regardless.

You'd open up xsane (a gui scanner controller). On the main options page it'll have an icon that looks like a flatbed scanner opening and next to it says flatbed; click on that option and choose automatic feeder. Then on the top of the page it says "viewer" which means it defaults to opening up a viewer to make changes to the scanned image. Click on it and choose multipage. That brings up a window for managing your multipage project; you change the name/location to whatever you want, click create, and it should default to using pdf. After that it should work just clicking "scan."

It'll start scanning each page and sticking an image of the page into the project's window. When you're done, click save multipage file. It definitely didn't do any nonsense here like deciding that you really didn't want the thing to be the whole page (even when I was scanning one page that had lots of text on it and another that had almost none).

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Jeff Kane
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Scan to PDF? Fujitsu ScanSnap. Awesome support and the scanners rock and are very very fast.

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Brad Miller
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It's great that the scanners rock, but do they do ANY auto-cropping of the page?

Also, I am only looking for an auto-sheet feed scanner. I don't have the time to lay one page down on the flatbed at a time. Does anyone have a specific model to recommend? And no Chris I'm not going to setup a Linux computer just for this.

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Sean Weitzel
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We're using a Xerox Documate 510. My wife uses it most of the time and when I asked her, she swears that the Visioneer software bundled with it will scan completely un cropped if you set it not to. Bonus that it has twain drivers which will allow it to be used directly with Adobe products if you don't like the bundled software.

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Justin Hamaker
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I've got a Brother MFC machine that is still running like a champ after 6+ years. I've had very good luck with Brothers.

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Brad Miller
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I'm going to quote someone from this thread for Justin.

quote: Brad Miller
It's great that the scanners rock, but do they do ANY auto-cropping of the page?
So far the only recommendation is for the Xerox Documate 510 because Sean answered the question regarding the evil, EVIL auto-cropping. Justin? Jeff? Joe?

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Justin Hamaker
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Ok, you got me Brad. I did not read every last word of your question. However, I did a couple test scans and it appears that it does in fact scan as 8½x11 edge to edge. Of course it will not print edge to edge because it had an unprintable margin of about 1/8". However, the printed document does fit the page the same way the original fit the page. I can lay the copy over the original and it lines up virtually perfectly.

I know you will already know this, but I will state the fact anyways: your scans and copies will never be precisely the same as the original. There will always be a small deviation caused by the optics of the machine - especially when using a document feeder.

I'll also add that this is a Brother MFC-8440 b/w purchased about June 2005. Using the ControlCenter 2.0 software.

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Brad Miller
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What I just looooooove about my HP scanner is that I can throw a stack of 30 pages in it and maybe half will come out edge to edge, some will "zoom in" for no good reason (but not cutting anything off), a couple will be transformed into beautiful streaks and then at least one will chop half the page off. Lovely.

Did you try scanning a stack to see if it could scan, for example, 20 pages in a row without cropping on any of the pages? That has proven to be the real test for me.

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Justin Hamaker
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We scanned a 35-40 page legal document a few weeks ago and it went through fine. At lot of that has to do with making sure your pages are in good condition and your document feeder is clean.

I routinely scan stacks of 10-15 pages when I'm sending monthly bills to corporate. The only problem I ever have is with the thin NCR paper or with papers than have folded corners.

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Jeff Kane
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We've never had cropping issues but I contacted support anyway. Fujitsu only autocrops if you have it on 'auto'. If you select the paper size it doesn't.

We rarely if ever have misfeeds and in those cases someone's got 30 sheets of wrinkled logs they're trying to scan. Otherwise the thing does a great job of only pulling one page at a time and spitting out what's put in.

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Leo Enticknap
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At work, we have one of these gorillas as a shared photocopier/scanner/fax.

I have run a pile of papers through it using the 'whole platter' setting (i.e. it scans the whole glass surface without cropping, which is slightly bigger than A3 size), and it then emails the result to you as a TIF or PDF file. You can select any of the common US or European paper sizes, any resolution you like up to 600dpi, and it is very fast (goes through a pile of 50 pages in a couple fo minutes). The model we have is b/w only, but I think they do make colour versions.

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Frank Angel
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We have the same make -- a Konica here but only a BIGGER unit. I am sure it's not what Brad is looking to invest in for this job. And it definately DOES NOT crop. It scans edge to edge --like any normal person would want and expect. It may have some auto thing, but I have never run into anyone needing such a sucky feature so I never investigated if it has one. Why HP would included it with no way to easily disable it is just stupid.

But as I said, this is much bigger than I am sure you are looking for, Brad. I am convinced everything in this trailer may go airborn in the storm, but this Konica will not move. It's the size of a golf cart and just as heavy.

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