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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 05-11-2012 11:40 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We haven't had one of these debates on two movies in a while.

So we've got two animation behemoths coming out this summer...which will dominate the boxoffice?

Madagascar 3:
Dreamworks Animation
The two previous films grossed $193M and $180M domestically
Looks more fun for kids

Brave:
It's Pixar, duh!
Not part of a franchise, but...it's Pixar!
Looks a bit scary for kids (could this be the first Disney film with a female heroine that will appeal to boys?)

Which will be the winner, grosswise? (I think we already know which will be the better movie.)

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Aaron Garman
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I sincerely hope Madagascar flops because I loathe the movies, and the trailers even more. It's just not good.

Brave will be fantastic.

AJG

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Brad Miller
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I'm with Aaron. Has Dreamworks Animation actually made anything good?

(By good, I am defining as entertaining, not high grossing.)

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Chris Slycord
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^^^
For what it's worth, I enjoyed Chicken Run, the first two Shreks (the third is atrocious and the fourth one was worse), How to train your dragon, and Kung Fu Panda. A couple more on their list were simply average. The rest were either garbage or something I assumed was garbage and never saw.

They definitely have a higher percentage of absolute garbage.

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Bobby Henderson
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Money-wise I think the contest is a toss-up.

The general public seems to have the taste of brain dead cattle, so that would favor lots of sequels, remakes, etc.

Personally, I have no desire to see Madagascar 3 at the theater. That's a strictly "wait til it comes on HBO" movie for me. I do want to see Brave. I called the corporate office of Warren Theaters to ask if they would be installing Dolby Atmos on any of their screens in time for Brave. The answer was "no." But I still want to see Brave anyway.

Brave has certain things working for and against it in terms of hauling in truck loads of box office cash. The good: it's a new story from Pixar and the company still has a great reputation for delivering good movies despite what happened with Cars 2. The bad: the main character is a young "ginger" woman with a thick Scottish accent -an unconventional protagonist that isn't as market tested as Ben Stiller voicing a lion and Chris Rock voicing a Zebra.

Generally, I consider Pixar's movies a step above those from Dreamworks both in terms of story quality and pushing the state of the art standards bar in computer animation higher. With that being said, I have enjoyed a few of Dreamworks' movies, like Monsters vs. Aliens, Kung Fu Panda and How To Train Your Dragon. The first Shrek movie was pretty good too.

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David Favel
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No matter how good the movie is, the only thing that counts is bums on seats.
I believe Madagascar will prevail for 2 reasons.
Its the kids who whinge and moan about what movie they want to see and the hype here is for Madagascar.
Brave is both in a scottish accent (no worries for me, but others will struggle) and the latest trailers are all over the place not conveying a single story line but trying to fit multiple story ideas in.

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Aaron Garman
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Speaking of Atmos, does anyone have any clues on which cinemas are going to be testing it? I figure the only for sure one is the El Capitan.

As for Dreamworks, yes, there work is not nearly as good. Shrek was awesome, and I remember liking Shrek 2, but that was all I saw of those. I really want to see How to Train Your Dragon.

Madagascar makes Cars 2 look like Citizen Kane.

AJG

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Martin McCaffery
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If the past is any indication in this town, Madagascar 3 will do really well. It is the Tyler Perry of children's animation.

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Mike Frese
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We will play both. My expectations are that Madagascar 3 will outperform Brave. Anytime you have a female heroine in a chid's movie, that will movie will attract fewer boys. My 10 & 8 year old boys are NOT interested in watching Brave at all. My 8 year old has a very good track record on how well a movie will perform.

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Steve Guttag
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Brave will be in Dolby Atmos...therefore it will naturally be better [Wink]

I believe Brave will be the debut movie in the newly named "Dolby Theatre" in Hollywood.

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Manny Knowles
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If "Brave" plays at the "Dolby Theatre" it probably won't play at El Capitan, which is right across the street.

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Martin McCaffery
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As predicted, at least in this town, Madagascar 3 did much better than Brave.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Manny Knowles
If "Brave" plays at the "Dolby Theatre" it probably won't play at El Capitan, which is right across the street.
I think it is, indeed, playing at both. Or did it just premiere at the Dolby?

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