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Author Topic: Dear Mr Scorsese.This is what they did to your movie last night. System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-17-2012 01:23 AM                 Link to video  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 01-17-2012 02:24 AM                     ..and the funniest thing is that this WAS RECORDED! But, as we all know, this is piracy and a crime punishable by dancing hamsters eating your brains. So many things are wrong here it is beyond a joke. To quote a poster on the You tube page ... quote: Congratulations, Regal. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS when there is NOBODY UPSTAIRS to catch this stuff... A projectionist could've been there to shut-off the pre-show, but Presentation and Artistic Integrity be damned, we're saving payroll. 'Nuff said.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-17-2012 02:58 AM                        I really like how the pre-show is about 10 times brighter than the movie itself. Regal's attitude is likely one of "Movie projector? Screw that! Don't give it more than 100 watts. Pre-show machine? That brings in revenue, give it a full 1000 watts!" Of course, that's as bright as Regal gets. Also, don't most competent facilities run the preshow through the regular projector nowadays? Seems redundant and costly to have a shitty little projector sitting next to it just for preshows. But hey, who's to argue with Regal's infinite wisdom?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-17-2012 03:04 AM                     They got bright preshow projectors .. this was film, not digital then since their preshow in the digital houses runs through the main projector. Did anybody come out to the lobby and complained on this to the ones in charge? Guess not...  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-17-2012 03:43 AM                        There is a guy in the Youtube comments demanding that Regal is now 100% digital. He sounded authoritative, so he must be right.  |  IP: Logged Frank B. McLaughlin Film Handler Posts: 76 From: Denver, CO Registered: Dec 2011 posted 01-17-2012 08:24 AM                        "a shitty little projector sitting next to it just for preshows" The really sad thing is that little projector with a 2000 watt bulb at 720p is sometimes more capable of producing a better image on the screen than the expensive stuff. The theater (in the top ten of circuits) I was once employed at sometimes used Blu-Ray and the preshow digital projector as presentation source. You should have been there!  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-17-2012 09:17 AM                     The Regal's Union Square Complex in NYC is one of the worst places to see a movie in the city. With film now I see they have continued to the next generation.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-17-2012 10:48 AM                        720p? All of the stuff I've seen has been 480p, or at least it looks like it.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-17-2012 11:06 AM                     Just goes to show there are plenty of ways to do digital wrong. It ain't perfect, folks. That's despite the "digital" buzz word.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-17-2012 11:20 AM                     quote: Congratulations, Regal. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS when there is NOBODY UPSTAIRS to catch this stuff... A projectionist could've been there to shut-off the pre-show, but Presentation and Artistic Integrity be damned, we're saving payroll. The preshow didn't start until the last 20 minutes, after 2 "film breaks". This would've happened at that site whether there was a guy in the booth or not. Either their automation has issues and caused it to happen, or the person fixing the problem didn't know how to properly restart the movie causing the preshow to come back on after awhile. Either way the problem was the people operating the booth equipment.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-18-2012 01:20 AM                     I dunno, Brad. Sounds like whoever hooked up the automation to the pre-shows didn't do a very thorough job. Our 35mm houses have a dry-contact relay driven off the motor circuit. If the motor is on, the pre-show is off. Of course when there's something wrong with the server and the idiots override the failsafe within it that's another story... 99 times out of a 100 the fault is ALWAYS in the ad machine and not the automation because SIMPLE is frequently better. This crap never happened when the preshow was a Kodak Ektograph or equivalent and non-sync...  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-18-2012 08:35 PM                        Since they had already two "film" breaks, I will bet that the pre-show was just on its own automation (or some kind of timer) and just came on when it was originally supposed to for the next scheduled show. What amazes me is that somebody from the audience didn't go say something within, oh maybe 30 seconds of it starting. This went on for 20 minutes? The problem could have been fixed in five seconds by putting a piece of cardboard over the pre-show projector lens. The audience members must have all been stoned or something, the way they're laughing it up on that video.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-18-2012 08:49 PM                     ....they could have simply flipped off the power to the preshow units.... Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-19-2012 11:55 PM                     Monte - you're assuming that someone from the theatre was watching.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 01-21-2012 08:20 PM                     Is anyone sure that the theater shown here was using 35mm? I didn't think many places were set up for 3D 35mm, or that it was even being supported very widely. The theaters around here still use a separate projector for the pre-show even if the movie is "digital". Don't know if that screen is common-width, but if it was and the movie was scope, the pre-show would've been BIGGER than the movie too. You may recall that 10 years ago I LEFT my job as a Real "Booth Manager" because I was forced to have the masking on the common-width screens always go UP for the slides (they hadn't gotten the digital preshow yet but I knew it was coming) then come DOWN when the film started, essentially making the screen smaller for the movie! I simply refused to do that so I left, and have no regrets. Common-width screens shouldn't be used at all, but if you have to have them don't rub it in everyone's face by doing that with them! Of course it's distasteful to show ANY type of paid ads on theater screens, but that's another topic for another day. Funny that Kia was sponsoring this; I was recently flipping TV channels and saw on The CW Network (which stands for Can't Watch), around the CW logo which was on during the entire show something else popped up that was promoting something from Kia. I went to their website to tell them that I would NEVER buy one of their cars after seeing that, but you had to "register" before they'd let you contact them.  |  IP: Logged

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