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Topic: Are you gonna sign up for Disney's new streaming service?
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Harold Hallikainen
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Denver, CO, USA
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted 08-30-2018 06:46 PM
I think we have enough TV with Netflix and Amazon. We also have an antenna for over-the-air, which gets used to watch 60 Minutes, and that's about it. I think we've been spending more time watching movies in theaters than watching television. We're currently watching The Americans on Amazon. Meanwhile, we've seen Puzzle, Skate Kitchen, Miseducation of Cameron, and a bunch of other stuff in theaters in the past few weeks.
While I think it's worthwhile for content producers to sell direct to consumers (like Disney is doing), I think this should be more of a pay per play instead of a subscription. If they have a movie I want to see, I should be able to go directly to the corresponding URL and pay to watch it. Bundling content has worked well for Netflix and Amazon, but we're headed down the same path as cable television where you may a monthly fee that includes a bunch of stuff you don't watch. A la carte seems to be the direction cable television is going to have to go, and I suspect the same for streaming.
Harold
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 08-31-2018 02:49 PM
I don't have any plans to subscribe to Disney's streaming service. If anything I'll be cutting back on pay TV subscriptions rather than adding any. I plan to get rid of Dish Network once I finish watching the un-watched shows on my DVR. That will free up roughly $100 per month of positive cash flow. I'm having a hard time justifying subscriptions to both Netflix and Amazon Prime because I don't think I watch shows on either service enough. Another service, such as Hulu, would add to the bulk of un-watched shows.
One exception: After getting rid of Dish I might consider adding the stand-alone HBO Now service for certain shows, like the upcoming final season of Game of Thrones.
Traditional cable TV just has so much CRAP on nearly all of its channels. "Unscripted" Reality TV-type programming has hopelessly infected these channels. There's marathon blocks of that garbage, interrupted only by infomercials! The disease that ruined channels like MTV spread to many other networks. AMC, FX and a few others have some blocks of actual real TV series, but that's the minority of what's being programmed. Whole seasons of those series appear months later on Netflix, Hulu and Prime. Live sports is the only thing left that can actually keep certain customers hooked on cable. ESPN is starting to tip toe in the direction of "de-coupling" with ESPN+, but it's nothing like what HBO Now is to the cable version of HBO.
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Marcel Birgelen
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posted 09-01-2018 06:04 AM
I doubt it will fly out of the door immediately, but like with many other Disney initiatives, if they hold their breath sufficiently long, then I'm pretty sure their streaming service will become popular, at least as long as they put their really good stuff in there and not just Disney Channel quality content...
With Disney owning an increasing amount of Hollywood's net output, I guess we'll see how much of the content still available on other streaming services will move to Disney's exclusive streaming service.
I guess Disney's strongest selling power will still be among the younger generations. And as part of peer pressure, the kids will force their parents to give in and pay the extra bucks...
Over in Europe, Disney did not yet pull their content from Netflix, so it looks like this Disney Streaming service will be an American experiment for the time being.
Disney actually already owns a big stake in a streaming service: Hulu. Although I guess it will die an even slower death like it is dying today, after the Disney streaming services might get a foothold.
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Marcel Birgelen
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posted 09-03-2018 12:42 AM
quote: Mike Blakesley
It's still on Netflix here too, it doesn't start coming off until the end of 2019.
I was under the impression they already started to pull certain content (and moved it to iTunes exclusively), but it would obvious make sense to wait until the alternative is around.
It's a bit strange though, that they need more than two years to come up with it. You'd say they could probably use the Hulu interface and infrastructure and redress it as Disney to get an early start. It's all their own content, so getting the necessary licensed content in place, which is often the blocking factor for other services, isn't a problem here.
quote: Sam Graham
I have no plans to subscribe to Disney’s service. If I like something of theirs enough, I buy the Blu-ray. Unless they get some really great original programming (the sole reason I have Netflix). Then I’ll reconsider.
I wonder for how long content will still be available on Blu-Ray. I seem to be the only one who regularly still buys Blu-Rays, while all the rest I know doesn't even have a Blu-Ray player or doesn't know their PlayStation can be used as one (albeit a pretty cumbersome one.)
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Marcel Birgelen
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posted 09-03-2018 07:28 AM
I guess that, as long as it makes economic sense to still ship it on physical media, they'll do so.
The problem though, is that there will be less evolution in physical media, as nobody is really putting in any research efforts for the replacement of the Blu-Ray right now. Read-only mass media seems to be at the end of the curve and as soon as Blu-Ray goes the way of VHS, it will most likely be the end of physical media for video.
quote: Sam Graham
Also, Netflix looks blatantly inferior to Blu-ray on my TV.
In my case I'd say it depends. Some of the newer content in 4K HDR and/or Dolby Vision really looks far superior to the average Blu-Ray content. But I sometimes see spikes of 40 MBit/s in peak, which certainly isn't usable over every kind of broadband connection.
You also require the highest subscription, which will most likely be raised by another few dollars a months and matching hardware (supporting the correct DRM), to be able to access the 4K and "4K+" content.
Many of the older content seems to be the lower grade SD content, whereas there often are better alternatives on Blu-Ray.
Also, if Netflix decides that your connection is no good, it will play it in a shitty bitrate.
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