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Author Topic: Hey you, you suck! (AKA: Outing bad film handlers) Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-27-2006 02:05 PM                        I saw a guy do that once. (Move a print without clamps or any other thing.) He just stuck his hands under the edge of the print, worked his fingers under there, picked the whole thing up and carried it away. I won't reveal who this was, but he's no longer in the industry. He didn't drop the print, at least!  |  IP: Logged Blaine Young Master Film Handler Posts: 477 From: Kirkland, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2006 posted 10-27-2006 02:29 PM                     I don't want to expose myself to too much riducule - but here goes. The booth I currently work in has no film clamps. Well, that's not entirely correct. We have them, but the are so huge, that unless the film is "The Departed" or "King Kong", the clamps don't even "clamp" the film. I remember when I was at GCC we had AutoWind3 platters which would wrap so nicely, you could tape the end of the platter reel and literally pick up the entire wrap and carry it on your shoulder down to the next auditorium. The Strong POS that we have at present wrap the film so loosely that you must have two people to carry the prints - and even then they flop around like a $2 whore. Now, if you 'tight wrap' them by dropping a roller on the variac, they wrap up pretty nice for gazillion moves we have to do on Thursday night.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 10-27-2006 03:48 PM                     Blaine, Been in a similar situation. Can't help you with your platters, despise them myself. But with your clamps you could take a piece of packing foam and wrap it up with duct tape to make a padded "shim" if you will. We currently do this at one of our theatres. Not the best, but it's better than loosing a loose print. Now onto my rant... I just received (to my knowledge) the only festival print being circulated of Congo River: Beyond Darkness. For a beat to hell print it's in decent shape but whomever put a big fat white sticker that doesn't peel off in one piece across the first 4 frames of the reel !!! That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen! Kudos however to whomever just played it (international festival in Norway??). Thanks for breaking it down competantly. /end rant  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 10-27-2006 04:31 PM                     Page 100! Congratulations to all the people in the business who made this possible.  |  IP: Logged Alex Grueneberg Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Chicago, IL Registered: Aug 2004 posted 10-27-2006 04:53 PM                        This goes out to Century Stadium 25 in Orange California who had print 53 of ‘A guide to recognizing your saints’ which I got in late last night. It was badly neglected with tails and headers missing and riddled with scratches (both base and emulsion). Also as a special gift they left some policy ads for Nissan and Chef Boyardee plus a bunch of lousy action movie trailers attached to the first reel. Gee Thanks! Like I really need another Ghostrider trailer... ATTN: Stadium 25, you suck. I am ashamed you call your self a Century. [ 10-28-2006, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: Alex Grueneberg ]  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-27-2006 06:34 PM                     Leaving trailers on the head of R1 is not a bad thing. Many downstream theatres appreciate it, because second-runs and non-theatricals often have trouble getting trailers. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-27-2006 08:00 PM                     going back to the print move thingey, and I know I'll get a little razz on this, is that if a print is SO big (like that 11 reeler called TITANIC, or that 18 reeler called GODS and GENERALS..) is to move the entire deck instead of hassling with clamps that can't fit these monsters.. Just be flipping careful that you communicate with the clown on the opposite end of the deck that helping you on lifting and plopping that heavy deck on the empty spindle carefully.. Yea, seen that as well - clowns hauling prints on their shoulders without any clamps, boards, et.al. and hearing stories of prints hitting the floor if they tripped and the ring pops out... -Monte -monte  |  IP: Logged Frank Dubrois Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 896 From: Cleveland, OH Registered: Mar 2005 posted 10-27-2006 08:01 PM                    I agree with leaving the original attached trailer on the reel, but not the addition trailers that are added. Some 2nd run theaters dont get a lot of the movies that some megasplexes get, so its probably a pain for them to remove them all the time. Leaving everything on reel 1 is just pure laziness..I dont think their doing anybody a favor except themselves.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-27-2006 08:13 PM                     I'm just the opposite: I like it when googooplexes leave their trailer paks on the print to where I don't have to do anything since I know that these movies will eventually be playing at my 6plex. (only thing is I have to take their cue settings off and put mine on..) -Monte  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-27-2006 09:46 PM                     Brad; I did say that prints shouldn't go up/down stairs unless necessary. Yes, there are some booths where there is no other way, thanks to bone-headed architects and the empty suits who hire them. However, if it is at all practical, it would be better to break the print down onto 6K reels and move it that way than to move it through dirty or dangerous conditions. Just ask yourself, "Which is worse? Spending time winding and unwinding the film onto reels for transport or spending even MORE time picking the print up off the floor?" If I was the only person woking in the booth who was able to movie prints and I didn't have a cart or a "Pizza Board" I'd break the print down. Look at it this way. Management has a choice. They can spend some money to buy some equipment to make moving prints safer and easier or they can spend MORE money on payroll when people have to: A) Work longer hours reeling and unreeling film for transport. B) Work even LONGER hours picking prints up off the floor and paying for the damage.  |  IP: Logged Frank Dubrois Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 896 From: Cleveland, OH Registered: Mar 2005 posted 10-27-2006 11:06 PM                    Don't you have one of those plywood film movers? I dont know exactly what their called, but for moving prints, it makes it easy and safe. It has two handles and one wheel on it..makes it extremely easy for 1 person to move a print even up a flight of stairs.  |  IP: Logged Alex Grueneberg Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Chicago, IL Registered: Aug 2004 posted 10-27-2006 11:32 PM                        Ok, I guess leaving the attached trailer on the first reel is'nt so bad but when its 4 trailers that don't fit the movie their on what’s so ever, are poorly cut together (no black, cut at last frame/first green frame) and are horribly scratched (both sides) that’s when I have a problem. And for the 2nd runs we always take never used trailers of recently released films and put a couple back in the can instead of just throwing them out or letting them linger in the booth. I get so many extras its absurd.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-28-2006 12:35 AM                        quote: Frank Dubrois Some 2nd run theaters dont get a lot of the movies that some megasplexes get, so its probably a pain for them to remove them all the time. Leaving everything on reel 1 is just pure laziness..I dont think their doing anybody a favor except themselves. Frank: You're wrong. I am more than happy to get extra trailers attached to R1. On many occasions I've gotten trailers that way that I never would have gotten otherwise.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 10-28-2006 02:58 AM                     Not to sound like a jerk but... quote: Monte L Fulmer or that 18 reeler called GODS and GENERALS It was 13...I need to get out more I prefer having the attachment if I pick up a sub-run. Somewhat ensures the ass-clowns didn't chop the studio logo off the beginning. Otherwise, keep your filthy, improperly cut trailers to yourself! ...Of course any sub runs I get anymore are from Brendon and Regal. Both of which SUCK!  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-04-2006 12:32 PM                     The rest of this thread has been moved to PART TWO. [ 12-04-2006, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: Adam Martin ]  |  IP: Logged

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