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  • Dolby ScreenTalk - software wanted

    In my quest to keep adding obscure and irrelevant technology to my screening room, I've recently gotten hold of the ST100 controller for the Dolby ScreenTalk system.

    ScreenTalk, for those who don't know, was Dolby's answer to DTS-CSS, the subtitling system that used the DTS timecode to, instead of synchronising 6 channel digital audio, instead synchronised a narration track and visual subtitles, that were commonly superimposed onto the screen using a separate digital projector (think a VGA data projector, not a digital cinema projector - this was the early 2000s!). Discs are supplied from DTS directly (not the studios!) with the subtitle and narration track. Dolby ScreenTalk worked in the same way, synchronising subtitles to the timecode on the SRD track, and projecting subtitles on top of the cinema screen, along with outputting a narration track that could be sent to those with hearing-aids or special headphones. I've attached a Dolby PDF which talks about ScreenTalk to this post in case you're interested in reading more.

    The DTS system worked by having either a special DTS-CSS box, which was basically a cut-down XD10 with only one DVD drive and no 6 channel output card, or by having a license installed on a XD10. The Dolby ScreenTalk system works by having the ST100 controller connected over USB to a Linux PC, which runs the "Dolby ST Media Master" software, and reads CD-ROMs containing the subtitling data.

    I now have the ST100, but don't have the "Dolby ST Media Master" software, or any CD-ROMs of the subtitle data. Does anyone have a copy of this anywhere? Perhaps in your projection booth there's an old PC that once was used for ScreenTalk that will have the software still on it, or a CD-ROM of a subtitle data for a film? If anyone has any of these I'd be very interested in getting copies to try and get my ScreenTalk setup working.
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    Is this also the system one would have used to project subtitles on a rear screen and individuals could use glass panes to place the reflection over the film image?

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      The DTS-CSS system is still in use up here. Both for 70 & 35mm.
      VGA through a scaler and out from the digital projector.
      It is a very confusing experience adjusting frame & focus on the film projector though ​
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        I'm impressed Magnus, I didn't know of anyone else still using CSS, especially commercially. I'm also amazed they made subtitle discs for Oppenheimer.

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          People expect subtitles up here, so if you want decent ticket sales you need them on screen. Otherwise only hard core film fans will attend.
          Oppenheimer actually had DTS track printed (our prints of Tenet only had SRD). The fun part was to locate enough XD10/XD20 units and get them working again. And to find someone who could create a CSS license.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ryan Gallagher View Post
            Is this also the system one would have used to project subtitles on a rear screen and individuals could use glass panes to place the reflection over the film image?
            I think you're thinking of the Rear Window system. I did not work on it in film, but did work on it in digital. Several digital Cinema servers could have their RS232 ports configured to drive a Rear Window display, which was a large LED display on the back wall of the auditorium. Text was displayed backwards so it would show up correctly when viewed with a Plexiglass reflector.

            On projecting subtitles (or captions) above or below the screen with a separate projector, USL had a system that would project captions that were only visible to those wearing polarizing glasses ( https://patentimages.storage.googlea...70216868A1.pdf ). It involved taking one of the polarizers out of an LCD projector. Pretty simple, but cinemas did not like the green bar below the screen, so it never went into production.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Magnus Eriksson View Post
              The DTS-CSS system is still in use up here. Both for 70 & 35mm.
              WoW! Magnus- I didn't realize the DTS CSS system could be used with film. (I guess I never really
              thought about it much) - But I guess since it works directly from the time-code - -the system doesn't
              care if it's one or the other. > Were the sound track disks interchangeable between film & DCP?, or
              was there one set for DCP and another set for film?

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                With the 70mm film prints came 3 DTS CD-ROM disks (or disk image files). 2 with sound and one with Swedish subs. Since the 35mm prints also had a DTS track I tested if they "matched", and they did.
                The DCP:s that we played had Swedish subs included and KDM:s only unlocked that version.
                I think there were 2 70mm and 7 35mm prints around for Oppenheimer.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jim Cassedy View Post
                  I didn't realize the DTS CSS system could be used with film. ... Were the sound track disks interchangeable between film & DCP?, or
                  was there one set for DCP and another set for film?
                  DTS CSS has only ever been for film, not DCP. Remember, DTS-CSS was first demo-ed at ShoWest 2001, long long before DCPs were a thing. It works just like the audio DTS system, in that it reads the timecode from the film, and synchronises the subtitle file, and the narration track with that timecode.

                  Originally posted by Magnus Eriksson View Post
                  The fun part was ... to find someone who could create a CSS license.
                  Datasat US will still create CSS licenses for XD10 players, and they were doing it at no cost recently. I'd urge everyone with XD10s to apply for the CSS license whilst you still can - it does no harm, gives you an extra capability in the future, and I'm sure there will be a time soon that Datasat stop caring about DTS (or, realistically, the person who knows how to create the licenses leaves).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Magnus Eriksson View Post
                    Oppenheimer actually had DTS track printed (our prints of Tenet only had SRD).
                    You're welcome. I pushed really hard to get the dts timecode printed on the 35mm prints and Universal understood the logic of doing so. Oppenheimer was the first 35mm prints to be struck for the first time in probably close to 10 years having two digital soundtracks on the print (plus the cyan SR analog backup).

                    Besides the original English audio discs (of which every 35mm and 70mm print shipped with), the following were created:
                    Belgium > French Flemish full stream subtitles
                    Czech Republic > Czech full stream subtitles
                    Denmark > Danish full stream subtitles
                    France > French full stream subtitles
                    Germany > German full stream subtitles, German narrative subtitles and German dubbed audio
                    Italy > Italian full stream subtitles, Italian narrative subtitles and Italian dubbed audio
                    Spain > Castilian Spanish full stream subtitles, Castilian Spanish narrative subtitles and Castilian Spanish dubbed audio
                    Sweden > Swedish full stream subtitles


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