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  • #16
    Originally posted by Leo Enticknap View Post
    I have just the solution. Marvel should try making a Bananaman movie...
    Yes! That's EXACTLY what is needed! Yes, yes and YES!!

    A completely irreverent but comically faithful sendup of a superhero movie. Not just a "clean" takeoff like "The Incredibles" but a total spoof in the style of Rocky and Bullwinkle. (The original TV series, not that gawd awful, CGI, animated, piece of crap movie they made.) One that breaks down all the barriers, so to speak.

    Let it be R-Rated... or, at least a "Soft R." Enough that you can throw in a few off-color jokes and still get away with it.

    As they used to say in the Vaudeville days: Let's "murder the show."

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    • #17
      Ummm.... wasn't that called Deadpool?

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      • #18
        Close. So was "Orgasmo."

        Deadpool was more of a sendup on X-Men. Orgasmo was more of a B-movie mashup.
        I'm thinking of a no-holds-barred lampoon. Something on the order of "Blazing Saddles," hopefully, done by Marvel, themselves, or at least a party far enough removed that Marvel/Disney can claim plausible deniability.

        I remember hearing a legend that, in the Vaudeville days, when a show was tanking, on the last performance, members of the company would "murder the show."
        All the different acts would change places and ape each other, making fun of themselves. The singer might take the place of the emcee. The comedy acts might take the place of the actors or the stunt performers. Everybody would do a different part and just lampoon the hell out of the whole thing.

        IDK. Maybe it's a FOAF story (Friend of a Friend) but that's the legend I heard.

        I'm thinking about something like "Roger Ramjet" on steroids, done in the style of an actual Marvel movie.

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        • #19
          Disney is really missing out by not making a “Super Goof” movie. I’m surprised they haven’t yet.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Randy Stankey View Post
            I remember hearing a legend that, in the Vaudeville days, when a show was tanking, on the last performance, members of the company would "murder the show."
            All the different acts would change places and ape each other, making fun of themselves. The singer might take the place of the emcee. The comedy acts might take the place of the actors or the stunt performers. Everybody would do a different part and just lampoon the hell out of the whole thing.
            There's a theater tradition that is a bit like this. Not sure how widespread it is but in college whenever we had a multi week run of a production we'd have a 'maintenance' rehearsal somewhere during it. Everything you described above happened. It was a good time.

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            • #21
              We can complain about the overwhelming number of superhero/cartoon movies, prequels and sequels all we want. The fact remains that these are the films that draw the biggest crowds. It's not like anyone is showing up for intelligent adult films, like they used to. The audiences that used to inhabit the smaller theaters in Westwood and the upper East and West sides in NYC don't really exist anymore. I don't even think "The Godfather' would be a hit if it was first released today and films like "Lawrence of Arabia", "Gandhi" and "The Last Emperor of China" would't be either.

              Top five domestic (North American) films of each year:
              2015:
              Jurassic World
              Star Wars Episode VII
              Avengers: Age of Ultron
              Inside Out
              Furious 7

              2016:
              Finding Dory
              Rogue One
              Captain America: Civil War
              The Secret Life of Pets
              The Jungle Book

              2017:
              Star Wars Episode VIII
              Beauty and the Beast
              Wonder Woman
              Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2
              Spider-Man: Homecoming

              2018:
              Black Panther
              Avengers: Infinity War
              Incredibles 2
              Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
              Deadpool 2

              2019:
              Avengers: Endgame
              The Lion King
              Toy Story 4
              Frozen II
              Captan Marvel

              2020:
              Bad Boys for Life
              1917
              Sonic the Hedgehog
              Jumanji: The Next Level
              Star Wars Episode IX

              2021:
              Spider-Man: No Way Home
              Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
              Venom: Let There Be Carnage
              Black Widow
              F9: The First Saga

              2022 (so far):
              Top Gun: Maverick
              Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
              Jurassic World Dominion
              the Batman
              Minions: The Rise of Gru

              So out of those 40 films, there's only one that's not a cartoon, superhero movie, sequel or prequel: "1917".

              So that's why studios are making what they're making.

              It wasn't really different ten years ago:
              2012:
              The Avengers
              The Dark Knight Rises
              The Hunger Games
              Skyfall
              The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2

              Or 20 years ago:
              2002:
              Spider-Man
              Star Wars; Episode II
              Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
              Signs
              My Big Fat Wedding

              OK, the last two are not superhero movies, etc.

              30 years ago:
              1992:
              Batman Returns
              Lethal Weapon 3
              Sister Act
              Home Alone 2: Lost in New York
              Wayne's World

              40 years ago (only slightly better):
              1982:
              E.T.
              Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
              Rocky III
              On Golden Pond
              An Officer and a Gentleman



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