Sometimes, "just because it's cool", should be enough motivation to do something. But I agree that I don't really see much promise in sending people to Mars. If we eventually want to leave this planet, then it may be worthwhile at starting to explore possibilities to do so. But I'd start by building a permanent outpost on the moon first. Although we seem to have sufficient struggles to get back to the moon, we at least have proven before that we know how to get people up there... Also, if something goes wrong, it's good to know that we could reach that place within weeks or maybe even days and not only in a few years.
Let us be very clear here that he has promised stuff like "cars driving itself from coast to coast" and stuff like the fully autonomous RoboTaxi feature as an "over-the-air-upgrade" in very public events, like public interviews on televisions and specially organized Tesla events.
And I do see a clear connection between Holmes and Musk here. They both over-promised and under-delivered, to a criminal level:
Theranos released a blood-test they knew was flawed, as a result of that, people got hurt, some people may even have died.
Tesla released many FSD releases they knew were flawed, they publicly over-promised the capabilities, it's almost certain, people died as a result of this.
As for the SEC taking action: Remember how long it took before the SEC took action regarding to Theranos or what about Madoff? Also, there are now a sufficient number of entities so deeply invested into Tesla, it's become a Ponzi scheme, almost too big to fail. The stock has already halved from its peak, but if it would crash to zilch, it would send off quite a shockwave. That's the main reason Tesla isn't likely to see the same fate as Nikola.
But things are getting ugly slowly but steadily... The amount of lawsuits, among them a number of class action suits are starting to pile up.
Musk has promised before he'd put a human on Mars before 2021 back in 2011. In 2016, he claimed we'll have the first human on Mars before 2025. We have "tapes" and they're no deep-fakes. This infamous guy deconstructs the whole concept behind Starship pretty efficiently. Is that guy a self-righteous, arrogant prick? Yes! But is he right? Let me say, it's hard to prove him wrong, despite being the arrogant prick he is...
Look, I could easily ignore Musk's otherwise idiotic antics if what he was doing was truly groundbreaking, but his actual business track record almost makes Donald Trump's business record look good. While he may have proven that mass-producing EVs based on lithium batteries is technically possible, the feasibility of those vehicles replacing current ICE models still hasn't been proven. Until then, those vehicles remain expensive toys for the happy few that can afford them.
While some may look in awe what he achieved with SpaceX, in reality, most if not all of what was achieved, had been achieved by NASA and other space agencies years before. Most of the technology was given to them and it isn't as if he did it cheaper than any of them. SpaceX has already burned $2 billion of public funds on Starship alone. And while Starlink may sound like a cool idea, nobody has found a way to make it profitable yet and the only way to keep it running is via public money backdoors, as in the U.S. military...
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And I do see a clear connection between Holmes and Musk here. They both over-promised and under-delivered, to a criminal level:
Theranos released a blood-test they knew was flawed, as a result of that, people got hurt, some people may even have died.
Tesla released many FSD releases they knew were flawed, they publicly over-promised the capabilities, it's almost certain, people died as a result of this.
As for the SEC taking action: Remember how long it took before the SEC took action regarding to Theranos or what about Madoff? Also, there are now a sufficient number of entities so deeply invested into Tesla, it's become a Ponzi scheme, almost too big to fail. The stock has already halved from its peak, but if it would crash to zilch, it would send off quite a shockwave. That's the main reason Tesla isn't likely to see the same fate as Nikola.
But things are getting ugly slowly but steadily... The amount of lawsuits, among them a number of class action suits are starting to pile up.
Originally posted by Lyle Romer
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Look, I could easily ignore Musk's otherwise idiotic antics if what he was doing was truly groundbreaking, but his actual business track record almost makes Donald Trump's business record look good. While he may have proven that mass-producing EVs based on lithium batteries is technically possible, the feasibility of those vehicles replacing current ICE models still hasn't been proven. Until then, those vehicles remain expensive toys for the happy few that can afford them.
While some may look in awe what he achieved with SpaceX, in reality, most if not all of what was achieved, had been achieved by NASA and other space agencies years before. Most of the technology was given to them and it isn't as if he did it cheaper than any of them. SpaceX has already burned $2 billion of public funds on Starship alone. And while Starlink may sound like a cool idea, nobody has found a way to make it profitable yet and the only way to keep it running is via public money backdoors, as in the U.S. military...
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