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  • Warner Bros. decides not to flush "Coyote vs. Acme" after all

    Well this is good news, because despite the almost 100% certainty that it'll be a huge disappointment, I really want to see this movie, considering I'm a Wile E. Coyote fan from way back. (I'll probably never see it though, because it'll wind up on Peacock or some other service I don't subscribe to, and by the time it hits "everywhere," I'll have forgotten about it.)

    One thing though... how can you possibly have a movie containing Looney Tunes characters that doesn't come out of Warner Bros? It will just feel wrong from the get-go, like those old Depatie-Freleng cartoons that sucked so bad compared to the real stuff that came out of Termite Terrace.

    All this sure makes you wonder what in the actual fuck is going on at Warners these days.



    Warner Bros. Reverses Course on ‘Coyote vs. Acme’ After Filmmakers Rebel

    BY AARON COUCH, JAMES HIBBERD
    NOVEMBER 13, 2023 11:27AM

    With Road Runner-like speed, Warner Bros. Discovery has reversed its decision to bury Coyote vs. Acme.

    The studio will now allow director Dave Green to shop his live-action/animation hybrid movie to other potential buyers instead of shelving the project for a tax write off, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed. Amazon is said to be a contender in the mix, with screenings for potential buyers taking place this month. Puck was first to report the news on the reversal.

    The move comes days after the The Hollywood Reporter broke the news that Coyote vs. Acme would become Warners' third already-shot film to get shelved after previously nixing nearly completed projects Batgirl and Scoob! Holiday Haunt in August 2022.

    After Batgirl and Scoob! were dumped, a group of filmmakers with business at the studio started a text chain — a support group of sorts — to share their hopes and their anxieties, as well as encouragement and tips for navigating the studio. The one question all of them had: What was going on with their movies?

    The Coyote cancelation roiled the creative community perhaps even harder than Batgirl and Scoob!, because those had been positioned as a one-off change in strategy, never to happen again. According to sources, after the Coyote vs. Acme news broke last week, several filmmakers instructed reps to cancel meetings they had on the books with Warners. But now that Coyote may ultimately find a new home, these filmmakers are taking a wait-and-see approach.

    Unlike the other films Warners canceled, Coyote vs. Acme was fully completed and had tested multiple times in the 90s. (Best picture winner Argo, both Deadpool movies, and the first The Conjuring are among features that likewise tested in the 90s.) According to sources who have seen the film — which stars Will Forte, John Cena and Lana Condor — Coyote vs. Acme is a popcorn-style crowd-pleaser.

    Coyote vs. Acme is a great movie,” tweeted writer-director BenDavid Grabinski, who worked with Green on Happily. “The best of its kind since [Who Framed] Roger Rabbit … The leads are super likable. It’s beautifully shot. The animation is great. The ending makes everyone fucking cry. I thought the goal of this business was to make hit movies?”

    After Batgirl was shelved, a narrative emerged that the film was axed because it wasn’t very good. “Our job is to protect the DC brand, and that’s what we’re going to do,” Warner Bros. Discovery CEO Zaslav declared during 2022 investor’s call days after the cancelation. Peter Safran, who became the co-head of DC Studios after Batgirl was shelved, said the team behind the film was talented, but that Batgirl “was not releasable” in remarks to press in January.

    Green’s industry friends mobilized to prevent that kind of messaging from tainting the reputation of Coyote vs. Acme. There is still a planned “funeral screening” this week on the Warners lot, according to sources, though “funeral” is no longer an apt term for a project that may very well find new life.

    “I don’t know how you see the movie and then go, ‘That couldn’t happen to me,’” says Brian Duffield, the filmmaker behind the sleeper Hulu hit No One Will Save You. Duffield was not involved in Coyote vs. Acme, but is friends with Green and gave notes on the film.

    Part of Duffield’s frustration, he says, was that Green did everything that was asked of him: he delivered the film, which sources say cost $72 million, on budget. He hit the right test scores. He even moved away from his friends and family to London for 18 months to save the studio money on post-production costs. All this, only to see his film get run off a cliff.

    Duffield believes that Coyote can make money — certainly more than the tax write-off.

    “I think Coyote is really similar to Barbie in a lot of ways,” says Duffield. “They are playing with iconography in a really fun, popcorn kind of way.”

    Veteran film executives acknowledge that shelving a film for a tax-writeoff — and to avoid distribution and marketing costs — can make an earnings quarter look better, but it can be short-sighted for a studio in the business of building franchises and a slate.

    The decision followed the industry taking a hard turn from a streaming boom golden age that saw studios shelling out unprecedented billions on content, particularly titles related to a familiar IP like Coyote vs. Acme. Some saw Warners’ bottom-line ruthlessness as less of a new way of mistreating talent than a return to how Hollywood used to be.

    “The idea that there was a little window there where a lot of people got to try a lot of stuff they wouldn’t have gotten to try in normal circumstances, that’s the anomaly,” one top writer-producer said. “The kind of red tooth and claw version of [conducting business], the nastiness — I think that’s the norm.”

    Still, it’s easy to imagine that if an in-demand creative has an all-things-being-equal choice of going with Warners or another studio in the future, that Zaslav’s aggressive tax strategies could give real pause — even with the reversal. Zaslav previously reversed an unpopular decision — the gutting of TCM — after an outcry from creatives including Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese and Paul Thomas Anderson.

    Interestingly, the plot of Coyote vs. Acme follows the speechless, ever-determined Wile E. Coyote as he teams up with a lawyer (Forte) to fight the big ACME corporation. Just like in the cartoons, Coyote buys ACME devices to try and kill Road Runner, but they never work properly, and often abruptly explode. The third shelved Warners movie, in other words, is the story of an underdog taking on a heartless company whose executives don’t realize there can be real consequences to making their products blow up in your face.​

  • #2
    Another Wile E. Coyote fan over here... I could watch those old cartoons on repeat all day, they never get old...

    Somehow someone decided that putting Zaslav, the guy that converted the Discovery Channel from a halfway decent infotainment channel into the utter reality dreck it is today, in charge of Warner Brothers must have been a great idea... It's a frickin' miracle the guy didn't end up shelving Barbie, because that would also be a great tax writeoff...

    When I first heard about this movie, I was pretty excited. Finally someone is trying to do *something* with the Looney Tunes again and it actually has the potential to not suck Space Balls...or Jams... So, let's hope it will see the light of day and will actually get a theatrical release, because this will be me:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOu8g0VoAKPTB2t4MeTAeZv6_KGhq9u0ExGcyYw8vlVzHQLJ1x1YclIgGxuzm_fdIdTAc&usqp=CAU.jpg

    What I actually didn't know until quite recently is that, somehow, somewhere they actually kept making new Looney Tunes over the last 15 or so years. While the new, 3D animated ones fail to capture a lot of the charm of the originals, at least they're still trying. Unfortunately, almost nobody is going to see them...

    Last edited by Marcel Birgelen; 11-14-2023, 06:46 PM.

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    • #3
      The problem with those newer ones is, they're TOO fast and zippy. And for the most part, not all that funny, and the characters look like caricatures of the original characters. I guess I'm an old (Elmer) fuddy-duddy.

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      • #4
        In comedy, timing is probably one of the most important aspect and probably one of the most difficult things to get right. This also highlights how well-made those original cartoons actualy are. Getting the timing right in those hand-drawn animation sequences is far more complicated than in modern 3D animation tools, where stuff can be quite easily re-aranged on a timeline.

        Yet, 3D animation can still deliver great comedy, with perfect timing, just look at that magical period when Pixar was still Pixar and knew how to play our emotions:



        Edit: Originally I wanted to put the ingenious Pixar short Burn-E here, but I guess the YouTube Karma Police doesn't want that on their platform.
        Last edited by Marcel Birgelen; 11-15-2023, 04:20 AM.

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        • #5
          Update: Looks like Coyote Vs. Acme may not hit screens (of any type) after all, because Netflix and Hulu didn't pony up enough money for it. Warners was asking for $70 million.

          I just don't understand the "why" of this. The thing is done, why not put it out somewhere rather than just sit on it. Hollywood accounting, I guess.


          DEADLINE: ‘Coyote Vs. Acme’: Will Forte Tells Fans It’s Looking Like They’ll Never See Axed Looney Tunes Animated Pic

          Coyote vs. Acme star Will Forte has spoken out for the first time since the movie was killed by Warner Bros back in November, telling fans in a social media post this AM, “I know that a lot of you haven’t gotten a chance to see our movie. And sadly, it’s a looking like you never will.”

          He continues that when he first heard about the film being “deleted,” he hadn’t watched it.

          “So I was thinking what everyone else must have been thinking: this thing must be a hunk of junk.”

          ​​

          “But then I saw it,” he continued, “And it’s incredible.”

          The last we checked in with Warners, the door wasn’t 100% closed on Coyote vs. Acme, however, they had already taken a $70M writedown on the completed feature in Q3 earnings. The movie was greenlit by the previous Warner Bros administration before Michael De Luca and Pam Abdy for around $70M-$80M. Given the fierce cost-cutting environment at Warner Bros Discovery, and the emphasis that anything motion picture wise has to be a hit (their co-production Dune: Part Two is eyeing a $170M start this weekend worldwide), it was decided that Coyote vs. Acme wasn’t worth marketing and releasing for the big screen, nor was it prudent to put the movie on streaming service Max.

          Forte continued to beam about the movie in which he stars with John Cena and Lana Condor, “Super funny throughout, visually stunning, sweet, sincere, and emotionally resonant in a very earned way. As the credits rolled, I just sat there thinking how lucky I was to be a part of something so special. That quickly turned to confusion and frustration. This was the movie they’re not going to release?,” continued the SNL alum and Nebraska star.

          “Look, when it comes to Hollywood business stuff, I don’t know shit about shit. Even when a movie tests very well (like ours), there’s no guarantee that it’s gonna be a hit. And at the end of the day, the people who paid for this movie can obviously do whatever they want with it. It doesn’t mean I have to like it (I fu**king hate it). Or agree with it. And it doesn’t mean that this movie is anything less than magnificent.”

          Forte ends his note with “You would be so proud of it — a movie that should be seen, but won’t. Please know that all the years and years of hard work, dedication and love that you put into this movie shows in every frame. That’s all folks, Will Forte”

          The axing of Coyote vs. Acme has drawn ire across Hollywood, particularly from the animation community (Phil Lord and Chris Miller) to the pic’s Oscar winning composer Steven Price (who collected a trophy for another Warner Bros’ movie, Gravity).

          Soon after news hit that Warners was killing the movie, its third during the Zaslav run era of the studio after Batgirl and Scoob Holiday Haunt, the studio received a slew of phone calls from agents and filmmakers such as Oscar winner Guillermo del Toro. Warners quickly decided to hold an auction for the movie with Netflix and Paramount putting forth bids between $30M-$50M, however, that was below Warner’s asking price of $70M.

          Deadline reached out to Warners for comment. We’ll update you if we hear back.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mike Blakesley View Post
            I just don't understand the "why" of this. ​
            Tax write-off. Batgirl, Scoob! and now this. I heard a few weeks ago that Tim Burton was going to do a remake of Attack of the Fifty-Foot Woman, and I'd love to see it, but the first thing that I thought of was: they'll shoot it, they'll shelve it, they'll write it off.

            Somebody in Congress or the IRS or the SEC needs to look at this. Seems like a pretty blatant scam to me.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mark Ogden View Post

              Tax write-off. Batgirl, Scoob! and now this. I heard a few weeks ago that Tim Burton was going to do a remake of Attack of the Fifty-Foot Woman, and I'd love to see it, but the first thing that I thought of was: they'll shoot it, they'll shelve it, they'll write it off.

              Somebody in Congress or the IRS or the SEC needs to look at this. Seems like a pretty blatant scam to me.
              It's not like Hollywood hasn't been in trouble with the SEC and IRS before... The last time it was Movie Studio Inc in Ft Lauderdale in 2021... I believe the SEC felt the name was misleading... vs. What they actually do. And that they didn't have the number of titles they claimed they had.

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