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    https://www.theguardian.com/film/art...police-arrived

    A woman brought her own snacks to Despicable Me 4. Then the police arrived

    Stuart Heritage
    Look, there is a lot going on in the world at the moment and tensions are high, and the last thing I want to do is to fan the flames by bringing up a subject so divisive that it risks tearing apart the fabric of humanity any further.

    And yet I must, because a cinema in New Zealand has just ejected two women for sneaking in their own snacks.

    According to the New Zealand Herald, the two women took some children to see Despicable Me 4 at Cinema 3 in Pukekohe, North Island. The pair were said to have taken blankets and snack bags – containing popcorn, sweets, crisps and lollipops – into the screening without being stopped by any cinema employees. However, just as the movie started, an employee told them to put their snack bags away, the report said. They agreed but the employee apparently insisted on sitting next to them to monitor the snack situation.

    A few minutes later, one of the children popped a Skittle he was already holding into his mouth, and quite frankly, all hell broke loose, the women said. The employee started shouting at them, and said that the police would be called unless they left. This is when the children started crying.

    “My niece asked nicely: ‘If you’re calling the police, are they going to kill my mum?’” one of the women told the newspaper. “And he laughed at that stage. He looks directly in her face and he said: ‘Yeah, maybe we’ll find out.’”

    The paper reports that the women agreed to leave the auditorium and continue the discussion in the foyer. Four police officers then entered the cinema lobby, which the woman described as “a bit dramatic”.

    It is standard policy in New Zealand for cinemas to ban food brought in from outside and the Herald reported that Cinema 3 has five signs posted around the premises stating this.

    “The exact wording is: ‘No outside food or drinks allowed’,” the cinema’s operations manager, Robert Greig, said, the paper reported.

    Thus, once again, one of the oldest arguments in the world has been pushed back into the limelight: should you be allowed to take your own snacks into the cinema?

    There are arguments for each side in the debate. Cinemas are struggling financially. Audience numbers are down, films guaranteed to have been popular five years ago are flopping and many venues are closing. In the face of such a decline, cinemas need all the help they can get. Most of the ticket price goes to the film studios, and often what can make or break a cinema is the snack stand. By buying a bag of Revels and a Tango Ice Blast, you are helping to preserve the entire cinema industry.

    On the other: have you seen how much these places charge? As soon as I’m done writing this, I’m going to take my kids to see Harold and the Purple Crayon, and the thought of doubling the ticket price by buying sweets and drinks – items thatwould be half the price at the supermarket – is already bringing me out in a cold sweat. By charging so much for snacks, it could be argued that cinemas are hastening their own demise. In a cost-of-living crisis, they are pushing themselves beyond the means of many people.

    Luckily, we have already had this argument in the UK, and the message is clear. Most UK cinemas are perfectly happy when audiences bring in their own snacks. Two years ago, Cineworld, Odeon and Vue all underlined this after someone tweeted them all at once. Of the chains, only Everyman is explicit about banning BYO snacks, with a line on its FAQ page reading: “Please note that only food and drink bought within the cinema is allowed to be taken into the screen.”

    In the US, Regal and AMC cinemas both warn against bringing outside food to a screening. South Korean cinemas sometimes provide a list of what is and is not permissible to bring with you (biscuits and ice-cream yes, pizza and blood sausage, no.

    In France, eating or drinking during a film is traditionally frowned on, so it isn’t a problem. And in New Zealand, apparently they will call the police and tell your kids that you might be murdered in a state-sanctioned assassination if one of you eats a Skittle. So, you know, it’s probably a good idea to check first.

    We’ll be seeing Harold and the Purple Crayon at a Cineworld. The only things I’m planning to sneak in are sleeping tablets.



  • #2
    Bringing your own food into the cinema obviously warrants the death penalty! 'm all for stoning her to death with popcorn.

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    • #3
      Maybe we should all enact a "bringing in your own food fee." I know a few drive ins used to do this, maybe some still do.

      I agree that theater snack prices are too high. But they always keep hammering the "cinemas are greedy" angle and never bother to mention the cost of doing business. If you eat in a fancy restaurant the prices will be higher. Why don't they ever make THAT comparison? Instead they just keep on bitching about the prices being too high. They should mention that each of those recliners costs $600-800, the projecter can cost up to $100,000, etc. etc. etc. I've shut-up more than one person with that argument over the years.

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      • #4
        I think no matter what the rules, there will always be rule breakers. The real question is how much of a scene do you want to create when you catch one. Beyond a certain point people start to sympathize with the rule breaker and then it's nothing but bad press, and may hurt em more than the sum total of all missed snack purchases for the year.

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        • #5
          "Maybe we should all enact a "bringing in your own food fee." I know a few drive ins used to do this, maybe some still do."
          We have charged patrons to bring food into the our drive-in since we opened in 2003. We currently charge $8.00 (per vehicle - not per person) if they want to bring in their own food. In all honesty, $8.00 really isn't enough. It ought to be $10. The "Outside Food & Beverage Permit" we charge is NOT a condition of admission for the patron, it's a condition of admission for their food. Charging folks to bring their own food in at the drive-in started back in either the late 90's or early 2000's by a drive-in in Maryland. It's kind of the accepted norm now. Of every 10 cars we get, probably two of them buy one. We've done it for 21 years.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mike Blakesley View Post
            They should mention that each of those recliners costs $600-800, the projecter can cost up to $100,000, etc. etc. etc. I've shut-up more than one person with that argument over the years.
            This reminds me of a restaurant franchise I once visited where almost everything was for sale, including the seats and tables, dishes, decoration. Everything had a set price and could be more or less bought on-the-spot. They had a little shop for the most commonly sold stuff though.

            But creating awareness with people why concessions are so highly priced and why allowing outside food and drinks would eventually kill your business would probably be a good thing. Maybe something can be put into a short informational bulletin that you can run before the show?

            Originally posted by Ryan Gallagher View Post
            I think no matter what the rules, there will always be rule breakers. The real question is how much of a scene do you want to create when you catch one. Beyond a certain point people start to sympathize with the rule breaker and then it's nothing but bad press, and may hurt em more than the sum total of all missed snack purchases for the year.
            I think it's OK to monitor it at ingress and politely ask people to discard their stuff or keep it safe for them, for the time they're inside. You can't just confiscate anything, even if it might be lawful in your particular jurisdiction, I deem this to be as too excessive. Only if people want to distance themselves from their stuff, then it's probably fine.

            If you only notice they brought in their own stuff once people are seated, I think the best solution is to politely ask them not to do this again. Anything else will probably make a scene and you won't be seen as a winner, especially not in a full room. Going to sit next to them to "monitor the situation", that's completely excessive and also pretty derogatory towards your customers. Also, it's interesting that you apparently have the employees to do this...​

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            • #7
              If the theatre was managed properly, we would have never heard this story.

              Back in 1996, I managed a theatre in Coral Springs, Florida. My competition theatre decided to "go real hard" on people bringing in outside food or drinks. They singled out an elderly lady who had brought in sugar-free candy (she was diabetic). They ended up kicking her and her husband out of the theatre. Little did they know that her son was the editor of the Broward County Newspaper "The Sun". Well, wouldn't you know it, the son decided to run a front-page story on the incident? The entire management and staff at the theatre were let go. They hired an all-new staff and put the proverbial "Under New Management" on the marquee in an attempt to gain some of their customers back.

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              • #8
                We have a lot of people bringing in "Stanley cups" or similar. I can't say I blame them -- I have a Yeti cup that I pretty much carry with me all the time. The appeal of it is that it keeps stuff colder than ice in a paper cup does.

                We put up a sign "No outside food or drink containers" but some people just ignore it, others ask if they can bring their cup in because "it's just water," or sometimes they bring them in empty and pour our drinks into them. Probably a few contain booze too, if I'm being realistic.

                We just let it happen for the most part, because they almost always buy popcorn and snacks, and I feel like if we annoy them too much they'll just decide to stay home. We don't allow any kind of food containers in at all though, but I'm sure more than one mom has brought in a a backpack full of healthy snack options for the kiddos.

                The only time we ever really get after someone once they are inside is if they've snuck in beer and we start to hear bottles hitting the floor or cans opening.

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                • #9
                  Alcohol is a whole nother matter. At least in my state in the US you can't be a BYO establishment unless you are also a private club. Then there is the various alcohol and beverage rules per state.

                  That is probably the one case where calling the police might actually be justified if they refused compliance and were a disturbance.

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                  • #10
                    I've never had to call the cops, but one time there were a couple of guys in our balcony who were drunk and being obnoxious. I went up and told them to shut up. Then later they started being noisy again so I went up again and said they need to be quiet. One of them stood up and said "I think we can talk if we want to, we paid to be in here." And I said "So did everyone else, you have to be quiet for the other people." The guy said "Are you gonna make us?" I started thinking, 'Uh-oh." At that moment, three friends of mine who were also in the balcony and happened to be sitting right in front of these guys, stood up and turned around. My friend Darren said "Better do what he says, man."

                    They were quiet after that! So the motto is, always have a squad of bodyguards nearby.

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                    • #11
                      I had a similar experience once when some older teenagers were drunk and disorderly before the show started. I went into the auditorium and told them that they were leaving. They disagreed so I turned around and announced to the others in the audience that these guys were going to be leaving and the show will start after they're gone.

                      Peer pressure works.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mike Blakesley View Post
                        The guy said "Are you gonna make us?" I started thinking, 'Uh-oh." At that moment, three friends of mine who were also in the balcony and happened to be sitting right in front of these guys, stood up and turned around. My friend Darren said "Better do what he says, man."
                        Well, that's a special way to earn a reputation.

                        But yeah, it's never worth getting into a fight, once that's about to happen, you should let it go and call the cops...

                        Back 25 years (give/take a year or two), when I still worked part-time in a theater, I had to do so twice. The place I worked for offered seat service and alcohol. A pretty new concept back then and a combination that sometimes drew the wrong kind of customers. The problem with drunk folks is that you never know how they're going to react. Some of them are so drunk they're loud, obnoxious but essentially harmless. Then again, some are still very capable of hitting you, or worse, draw a knife on you and I've had that last one happen once... Not a nice situation to deal with, and a situation that can make you reconsider some of your life's choices...

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                        • #13
                          Got all those stories beat. We had a rather unruly crowd for a comic last year (a rental of the building, not someone I would have booked). An intoxicated man was arrested in the theatre. For the several infractions, the most egregious being assault (with bodily fluids). He was so drunk he stood up, turned around, and pissed on the woman sitting behind him.

                          The weirdest thing is he was not attending alone, and none of his mates had the presence of mind to stop him.

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                          • #14
                            There was a guy arrested here once, but I'm not sure what he had done.

                            The police showed up in the middle of the show and told me that they were here to arrest him. I stopped the movie and turned up the lights, they went into the auditorium, handcuffed him, left, and I restarted the movie.

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                            • #15
                              I brought my own when I went to AMC locations because they are generally awful. But I have since found a very nice all 4K Regal and I buy refreshments from them from.

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