NEC NP-90MS01 (Dolby IMS1000) - Security Manager Not Responding

[James Gardiner]

A note on this, if running Barco, the ICMP Barco player takes the place of the ICP board. so that's a path forward for some.

[Carsten Kurz]

That being the case, I see no reason why in field procedures that allow them to be re-batteries and re-armed, should not be considered as a possible path. (DCI are you reading?)

ICP cert battery battery replacement has been discussed extensively here: http://www.film-tech.com/vbb/forum/m...ries-depleting

[James Gardiner]

From the feedback I have seen, its too problematic to try and retrofit a ICP board. As the projector certificate is utilised in the Marriage process. Without it, its no longer a DCI projector. All because of this battery, a large and very expensive piece of equipment is made useless. (In a time when money is tight). A clear outlay of all options when in this situation is critical to many smaller cinemas. (And some larger ones too)
I was trying to work out if software upgrades were possible to drop the need for the ICP certificate. As the projector cert is not used in the creation of the KDM. But as the cert is needed for marriage, and to certify the projector as being a DCI projector. The only real path is to Fix the ICP's (From what I understand).
I am struggling with the fallout here. Considering all the circumstances. Cinemas should just upgrade, but many will not be in a position too. And that is.... extremely unfortunate.

[Steve Guttag]

The ICMP-X and ICP-D are Barco's offerings. They use a more conventional battery arrangement (socketed) and it is just the one battery for certificate and RTC. However, if you slip up and let that battery go a day too long...well, Barco hasn't shown that they are keen on recerting them. I do see that, at least in the USA, there is a swap program for the ICMP series of servers (prices vary by model) that would amount to a discounted server that could overcome a failed certificate battery (it would be a VERY expensive battery). I do not see such a program for the ICP-D but there is a low-cost warranty extension availability for the ICP-D as a stand-alone piece. Buying 7-8 years of ICP-D warranty will be FAR cheaper than buying an ICP-D if one has any sort of failure.

[Carsten Kurz]

First of all, one should measure his ICPs cert battery once a year e.g. during service, to get an idea how close to doomsday you are. I have seen 10 year old ICPs with voltages on their cert battery that are far from critical (still close to 3 volts). But there also have been dead ICPs due to cert battery voltages dropping below 2.5 volts. Without measuring, you're in the dark. And measuring is very simple and reasonably safe.

There is a very easy hack to rescue an ICP that is approaching cert battery death - put in a new ICP clock battery from a solid manufacturer, and with a known expiration data (good brands print a cell shelf live on their packages). Then just clamp a wire between the top (+) of the clock battery holder and the cert battery top. They have common ground, and the clock battery will support the cert as well. That will give you five more years to think.