Originally posted by Bobby Henderson
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Does Disney post any numbers on how many pony up $30 for advance access to one of their movies? I'd bet whatever that number might be likely wouldn't compare very well to how many people were buying DVDs back in the 2000's.
Disney and HBO Max both have tens of millions of subscribers. But the money Disney and Warner Bros are supposedly gaining from those subscriptions isn't all profit. Both have to produce a steady stream of new movies, TV series and other kinds of stream-able content. The revenues they're gaining from subscriptions are making a negative dent in revenue coming from theatrical box office sales and home video sales (both physical discs and "digital" sales).
HBO has announced that starting in 2022 they'll no longer release movies in theaters and on HBO MAX simultaneously. There was some confusion about the re-make of Dune, due to be released October 1, whether it would get an exclusive theatrical window. But Warner Bros is sticking to a day-and-date release via HBO Max. The movie's director, Denis Villeneuve, has been publicly critical about the lack of a theatrical window, saying Warner Bros is going to kill the Dune franchise just to bait more subscribers. The upcoming movie adapts just the first half of Frank Herbert's novel, so at least one follow-up installment would be expected. If Dune tanks at theaters (which is possible) that follow-up movie might not get made.
Netflix still has far more subscribers than any other streaming service. I don't know the breakdown of it, but to me it sure looks like Netflix puts a lot more into original series TV content than it does with movies. Even Amazon does more to push series TV than it does movies. Viewers have to keep watching longer and subscribing longer when they get vested in a series. Movies are watch it once and you're done kinds of things, especially today with the Save the Cat bible formula still being applied to so many of them.
I think the best bet for movies is shoring up the theatrical release platform and extending the exclusive window weeks if not months longer. Going the other direction with little to no window at all could lead to hundreds or even thousands of theater locations closing for good. Without the theatrical platform a traditional 2 hour movie will just be a TV show trying to compete against a lot of series productions on the same platform.
Disney and HBO Max both have tens of millions of subscribers. But the money Disney and Warner Bros are supposedly gaining from those subscriptions isn't all profit. Both have to produce a steady stream of new movies, TV series and other kinds of stream-able content. The revenues they're gaining from subscriptions are making a negative dent in revenue coming from theatrical box office sales and home video sales (both physical discs and "digital" sales).
HBO has announced that starting in 2022 they'll no longer release movies in theaters and on HBO MAX simultaneously. There was some confusion about the re-make of Dune, due to be released October 1, whether it would get an exclusive theatrical window. But Warner Bros is sticking to a day-and-date release via HBO Max. The movie's director, Denis Villeneuve, has been publicly critical about the lack of a theatrical window, saying Warner Bros is going to kill the Dune franchise just to bait more subscribers. The upcoming movie adapts just the first half of Frank Herbert's novel, so at least one follow-up installment would be expected. If Dune tanks at theaters (which is possible) that follow-up movie might not get made.
Netflix still has far more subscribers than any other streaming service. I don't know the breakdown of it, but to me it sure looks like Netflix puts a lot more into original series TV content than it does with movies. Even Amazon does more to push series TV than it does movies. Viewers have to keep watching longer and subscribing longer when they get vested in a series. Movies are watch it once and you're done kinds of things, especially today with the Save the Cat bible formula still being applied to so many of them.
I think the best bet for movies is shoring up the theatrical release platform and extending the exclusive window weeks if not months longer. Going the other direction with little to no window at all could lead to hundreds or even thousands of theater locations closing for good. Without the theatrical platform a traditional 2 hour movie will just be a TV show trying to compete against a lot of series productions on the same platform.
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